jackson Verdict

There's no denying the man is a musical genius and I'm hoping for a big MJ come back but the trial looks like it could have taken it's toll on him.

Who am I to judge whether he did commit the crime or not, I wasn't there, I didn't see it with my own eyes, neither have I had all the evidence presented to me like the jury in the trial have.

MJ being who he is his with his naive crazy ways was always going to be left open to extortion from greedy individuals who set out to ruin an extremely talented man and a man that also appears to wear his heart on his sleeve.
 
Its a shame he did'nt get sent down. I wonder what he would have done with his wig? And what about his screw-on nose? He would'nt have been able to take those into the state pennitentuary.

However, I trust he will never again be allowed into the UK...if he is, then he should be arrested and charged with dishonouring the good name of various Army Regiments by his scandoulous wearing of their badges throughout his trial.
 
I am quite amazed at the fact no one is now questioning the facts of Martin Bashir's interview and the role of the news media in this case, they were the ones pushing for a case got one and lost and now vanish in to thin air ready for the next unsespecting headliner to make them rich.
 
The Peter Pan of Pop and the Lost Boys?

Perhaps he should base his next personna on Uncle Tom's Cabin, less naivety and at least he was black.

Shamoo!
 
It wasn't Martin Bashir who made the revelation in the interview about children sleeping in MJ's bed. It was Michael Jackson himself. He is incredibly naïve not to have realised that it simply isn't normal behaviour and that many people would be horrified by such an admission. In my mind it isn't a question of whether anything sexual took place I quite simply would be disgusted by any adult male in his forties sleeping in the same bed as a young kid.

Martin Bashir just let Michael Jackson dig himself into several pits and then left him the pick and shovel with which to dig himself deeper in. One other example was when the Jackson family blamed MB for accusing the father of being violent when it was Michael himself who openly and willingly told of how his father used to beat him. He wasn't stupid. He knew that was being filmed. He knows what a camera looks like. He didn't have to say those things, but he did say them. No-one else put the words in his mouth.

As Tinkerbelle says we weren't there when the alleged sexual assaults took place and didn't witness any of the goings on ourselves, neither were we able to hear all that the jury heard and we have no way of knowing who told the truth about the allegations but the childlike Michael Jackson image has been changed forever, not by his accusers or by Martin Bashir and the rest of the press, but by actual facts such as the pornography found at Neverland and by the words spoken from his own lips.

It doesn't make any difference that he is talented and nothing changes the fact that he's made some brilliant recordings and done some great performances but he has also done some very foolish and downright stupid things too. In all of this the people I feel most sorry for are his children. If Michael Jackson's own less than normal upbringing has made him what he is today what effect will their upbringing be having on his children?
 
So Jackson has been aquitted, not much of a surprise there. I wonder if the people who testified against him will now be charged with committing perjury?

Interestingly, I came across this in the Times this afternoon.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,19389-1653747,00.html

It seems that some members of the jury were convinced of his guilt but decided to err on the side of caution because the evidence was not overwhelming enough. I'll bet the prosecuting attorney is pretty sick after hearing that admission. And now it seems that Jackson is planning to move to Europe. If he really is innocent, what is there to run away from?
 
the thing that made my mind up on his innocence were 2 things

1:the accusers in this trial were so obviously lying through their teeth stevie wonder could see it

2: witnesses came forward saying they saw jackson molest children yet when the 3 children now grown up adults and nothing to fear from jackson testified they said no jackson never did anything at all to them and one of them was a wealthy hollywood star

the way i see it is that if i was molested as a child and appeared in court i would not protect my attacker

and if been rich got bought you freedom there wouldnt be any rich people in jail

all the prosecution had were ex employees with grudges and failed lawsuits agains jackson and a scrounging mother looking for a fast dollar

the defence didnt use any dirty trick like some say, they simply produced reliable witnesses

also i would like to add that i dont like jacksons music and i think hes a total nut bat but i dont think he abuses kids there were many things left un mentioned in the jordash case which were brought to light in a bbc documentary i think it was and it put a totaly different light on it

jackson should have fought that case all he did was arouse suspicion when he paid for it to go away rather than fight but after this trial i can understand why he didnt want to go through a court case
 
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It seems that some members of the jury were convinced of his guilt but decided to err on the side of caution because the evidence was not overwhelming enough. .........And now it seems that Jackson is planning to move to Europe. If he really is innocent, what is there to run away from?
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One wonders what the verdict of the jury would have been had the same evidence been presented against a "normal" 46-year old male, instead of someone straight out of a freak show. I have a funny suspicion that the return would have been guilty, beyond all reasonable doubt.

As for flitting to Europe, surely from what is left of the sovereign power of governments there is the facility to bar undesirable aliens. If the Yanks can refuse entry to the ( unproven) terrorist funder Cat Stevens, than I'm quite sure that buffoon of a Home Secretary called Clark can red card Jacko the Paedophile.
 
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If the Yanks can refuse entry to the ( unproven) terrorist funder Cat Stevens, than I'm quite sure that buffoon of a Home Secretary called Clark can red card Jacko the Paedophile.
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Actually if you give a concert to fund Islamic Jihad I think I would call that proof that you funded a terrist organization, as did U2 in the 80's for the IRA and they can do what they want.
 
It really doesn't matter what any of us think......he was subject to due legal process and was acquitted of all the charges.
It is not over for Michael Jackson though, there is some talk that the families who accused him of wrong doing are going to pusue him through the civil courts.......this happened to OJ and he was bankrupted by it.
 
This is obviously a man with severe mental problems. His self-mutilation is witness to that.

Jackson has never denied that he slept with children. In his childish naiveté he did not, however, consider the implications of the euphamism, "sleeping with". I think there probably was some impropriety, it's what little boys do and Jackson seems to have the mentallity of a little boy, but I never believed that there was any sexual corruption or predation.

It is my opinion that rather than facing a trial, brought about only at the instigation of complicit parents looking for financial gain, Jackson should have been referred for psychiatric treatment. Any trial should have been reserved for the parents who, willingly, allowed their children to be exposed to the possibility of abuse then screamed for Big Bucks when the opportunity arose.
 
all the ay through the case the orviso family said it wasnt about money

the orvisos have got a solicitor already to look into civil action

i hope her case gets booted out before its even heard the cow should be in jail not sueing in court
 
have read all the replys with interest,what i don,t grasp is how can somebody with pornography books in his bedroom,that was proved!not to mention the wine that was supplied to minors,i just cannot understand how some people think the mans innocent,am i being thick?
 
A lot of people have so called porn books although these were only over the counter books I think the large doubt created by some of the prosecution witnesses had to create an aquittal it really is the only outcome possible
 
No, you're not thick, Cashman. Isn't this, though, just the sort of thing young lads do?

This man has never grown up. He behaves, and has behaved, like a young adolescent living in a fantasy world without a thought for the consequences. The point is, would you let your young son enter his world unless you thought you had something to gain from it? Would any responsible parent do so? Of course not.

I fear for his children.
 
my friends dad has an extensive porn collection which me and my friends as young teenagers used to look at as soon as his dad left the house but he isnt a peodophile

in the bedside cabinet is NOT a good place to hide porn lol

when they went to get the porn from jacksons house it was in his bedroom yes but no kids were in there reading it

i would have a different opinion if they had gone to get the porn from neverland and they had walked in on jackson masterbating over porn with kids in the room but they didnt
 
take your point chav, just saying i would never have let any kids of mine within a hundred miles of neverland,there grown now but their safety was always no1 prority.
 
i personaly would not leave my kids with anyone unless i was there to keep an eye on them unless it is direct family or a close long term friend

i wouldnt have left my kids with jackson even before any alegations were ever made simply because i dont know him well enough although i would have visited neverand but my kids would have slept in my room no matter who it is my kids stay with me
 
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