john coleman

Willie Miller said:
I think its friggin disgusting for so called fans to call for the head of Eric, John or Rob. They all live & breathe this club & got us in the League in the first place.
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It is definitely wrong to completely disregard Eric's achievments, he and the directors have got this club back into the football league which was a pipe dream not too long ago.
However I don't think it's wrong to want the club you support and put hard earned money into to sustain their success.
 
shakermaker said:
It is definitely wrong to completely disregard Eric's achievments, he and the directors have got this club back into the football league which was a pipe dream not too long ago.
However I don't think it's wrong to want the club you support and put hard earned money into to sustain their success.
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But do we, as fans, really believe that with our low crowds, poor facilities etc that we might shoot through the pyramid ala Wimbledon. Oxford got a 12,000 crowdon Boxing Day in Non League we are paupers in comparison & should be proud of every minute in the League.

Crticism, suggestions, comments etc are fine but calling for the heads of our most successful chairman, manager & Rob Heys (who shared a terrace with many of us whilst in non league obscurity) is wrong wrong wrong IMHO

These people aren't faceless suits in a Premiership plc, they Accy fans with the best interest of our club at heart. They make mistakes, we all do. But criticism of this personal kind is for the Premier League fans with unrealistic targets & watered down passion.

We can all do our bit * we must continue till the good times roll again:o
 
Zero,


thanks for airing some of my thoughts regarding kids/prices/osc.


A lot of people come on here airing thoughts this that and the other but then sit back expecting things to be done.

OSC as far as I am concerned has been a loss leader, we have spoken a lot about how things must change (minutes of last meeting still to be publicised but revolution of sorts is on the way), we are only now starting to see the fruits of our labour in any way shape or form. The Open Day is going ahead without the support of the Ultras, without the support of most from the OSC, without the support of most on this website. Membership still consists of more from non-Hyndburn than from within Hyndburn.

Before people start slagging the club for lack of effort are you making any effort? Or do you just want to turn up and watch the game and then pick fault?

I have emails from people all over the country offering help and assistance with whatever they can, I have an offer on the table from somebody in Devon ffs to aid with the membership! How many people in Accrington want to help? This club has the potential to really ruffle feathers but too many people who think they are important have too much to say but not enough to offer. Put up or shut up.


The OSC has moved on from Unibond organisation, what we need is people to now turn up and offer their help and their ideas at the next meeting. Cmonstanley, you always have a lot to offer, will you be there? If you think we should have a shop in the town centre then expand on the idea, talk with the powers that be ..... how much is rent ...... can you do it cheaper ..... how do we pay the rent to make it viable ....... can the OSC provide merchandise ..... can ASFC provide merchandise ..... can we run coaches from it ...... ebay ...... etc etc etc ....


Rather than purely criticism, try to bring solution as well. If cost is 500 a week but we can make 1000 then its a goer, if not then that is why ASFC do not already have a shop in the town centre. I f you can make work then you will have mine and no doubt the OSC and ASFC backing
 
Wynonie Harris said:
There are a lot of football fans who support other clubs who have an affection and interest in Stanley. I know that from living outside the area. It's these people who might well be prepared to pick up some item of Stanley merchandise if it was more widely advertised.
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I have links with Accrington itself ( obviously because I live here lol ) and therefore friends who are Stanley supporters. However as a supporter of another team I wouldn't buy Stanley merchandise unless it's a present for a Stanley fan. I'm not quite sure why a non-supporter would do that unless they collect football memorabilia.

There was at the end of last season a sentimental thing about Stanley returning to the football league. Personally I think it was a one off for obvious reasons. If you went down this season and came back 2 or 3 years later I don't think that sentimentality would be anywhere near the same level.

I'm not convinced that those who do support other teams but have that bit of affection and interest for Stanley would actually put their money in their pockets and buy the stuff. Of course some would but IMHO I think the moment has gone for when that commercial gravy train pulled out of the station.

Somebody earlier in the thread for me summed up the biggest problems Stanley have got ( just as we have at Burnley) Apathy & Money. If you could trade in the enthusiasm of some of you diehards on here for some of the apathy and money, gates and commercial spin offs wouldn't be a problem.

And no I don't know what the answers are to solve it all either apart from somehow stopping the big clubs getting bigger and distributing the income from football a lot fairer than it is now.
 
Willie Miller said:
But do we, as fans, really believe that with our low crowds, poor facilities etc that we might shoot through the pyramid ala Wimbledon. Oxford got a 12,000 crowdon Boxing Day in Non League we are paupers in comparison & should be proud of every minute in the League.

Crticism, suggestions, comments etc are fine but calling for the heads of our most successful chairman, manager & Rob Heys (who shared a terrace with many of us whilst in non league obscurity) is wrong wrong wrong IMHO

These people aren't faceless suits in a Premiership plc, they Accy fans with the best interest of our club at heart. They make mistakes, we all do. But criticism of this personal kind is for the Premier League fans with unrealistic targets & watered down passion.

We can all do our bit * we must continue till the good times roll again:o
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You're right in all that you say, but the question burning in the minds of a lot of Accy fans right now is whether or not we want to sacrifice sentimentality & loyalty for the sake of staying in the league.
For me, new personnel must be brought in if we are to survive. However I believe that calling for the head of Eric Whalley is somewhat disrespectful.
 
lancsdave said:
I have links with Accrington itself ( obviously because I live here lol ) and therefore friends who are Stanley supporters. However as a supporter of another team I wouldn't buy Stanley merchandise unless it's a present for a Stanley fan. I'm not quite sure why a non-supporter would do that unless they collect football memorabilia
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I live in the Manchester area and, over the years, I've lost count of the number of United/City fans in the local who've asked me to get 'em Stanley stuff. One bloke even wanted a shirt but mainly it's been bits and bobs - pennants, badges etc. Years ago, the club produced a humorous T-shirt which featured a cartoon of a Stanley player (Paul Beck?) supping a pint of lager with the line "I'm In Training for Accrington Stanley". Wore it in the pub the first night and I walked out with orders for six more! Jokey, lighthearted stuff like this could sell well, because our name still does hold a fascination for people. OK, it won't solve our major funding problems, but every little helps!
 
Charlton fans called for Curb's head last year citing "he'd taken them as far as he could" they got there wish & will be playing Burnley & maybe even Oldham next year

In Coleman We Trust!:)
 
It was Grimmy on the t shirt and it would be fantastic if they reproduced it - mines now being used to clean the windows!!!!
 
Wynonie Harris said:
I live in the Manchester area and, over the years, I've lost count of the number of United/City fans in the local who've asked me to get 'em Stanley stuff. One bloke even wanted a shirt but mainly it's been bits and bobs - pennants, badges etc. Years ago, the club produced a humorous T-shirt which featured a cartoon of a Stanley player (Paul Beck?) supping a pint of lager with the line "I'm In Training for Accrington Stanley". Wore it in the pub the first night and I walked out with orders for six more! Jokey, lighthearted stuff like this could sell well, because our name still does hold a fascination for people. OK, it won't solve our major funding problems, but every little helps!
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I'm actually looking at setting up a business printing stuff like that and all the other 'tat' that people buy. I can see a market here :D

I would guess the problem the club has is having to order things in sufficient quantities that they can get the stuff made but the fear then is that they may not sell it all. Wouldn't it be good if they had a nice friendly supplier who could supply small runs almost on a made to order basis so they wouldn't end up with unsold stock. Isn't market research great :D
 
Willie Miller said:
I think its friggin disgusting for so called fans to call for the head of Eric, John or Rob. They all live & breathe this club & got us in the League in the first place.

Of course we could do more, but we had "recruitment drives" in town & a handful came (the list never included Bagpuss, Cmonstanley etc etc)

The people you mock online are all in thebar after the game if you want answers / have suggestions then sort it out.

This is our most successful season EVER, for @@@@'s sake:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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im not calling for anybodys head im just having a rant and giving the club ideas ive never called for anybodys head im ****ed off what happened yesterday where does it say im calling for anybodys head recruitment drives are alright but what we need is a permenant presence in the town to remind them they have a team . and if you read what it says at the start of this thread i never called for colemans head i said the reason why certain players are complacent is they know coley wont get sacked and their places are safe so there you go:D :D :D
 
J C is totally aware of the position he & the club are in & told several players in his bollocking after the game they were not good enough & to buck up or go & others were also castigated for a poor performance. Next week will see his response as there are potentially at least four players to be signed up. Watch the club news. Dismissal of a manager at this stage is an admission of a board of directors that they are panicky & not many benefit by hasty exits, the likes of Macclesfield are few & far between. There are some ex managers, sat twiddling their thumbs, who could be brought in as advisors to help Coley, with good player contacts & experience at league level that would do the club no harm whatsoever. Peterborough weren't as shy with Big Ron last season! Just the prat of a reserve! manager that wouldn't listen to experience & he paid the price.
 
Evnin all i have been reading everything on the forum with interest for about the last month without posting ie tranfers in and out JC and EW in and out poor crowds, no f in roof the list goes on and on,ASFC is never gonna be a chelsea,arsenal or man u money wise but accrington stanley is known world wide, i have travelled quite a lot this year and worn my stanley shirt with pride and lost count of the people that have stopped and wanted to talk stanley.
Eric and John have done fantastic things with the club both on and off the field and we as supporters should be proud and not asking for heads to roll ok we have a few problems on the squad front at the moment but there is time left to sort it and i,m sure when we find our feet again we will be soaring with the eagles,even though we have had a poor run we can hold our own in this league as i have not seen one team at the FES this season that we could not have beaten
The problems we have have many root causes and will not be solved overnight ie the transfer in and out situation the lower league clubs have been and always will be a breeding ground for the talent of the future and as stanley have found if you have a good un your not gonna keep him for more than a couple of seasons.As for players coming in and the so called low wages we pay i don,t call 27 grand exactly being on the bread line for what boils down to 90 mins serious work a week.
Regarding the crowds well as said before this town is full of apathy everybody jumpin on the band wagon including the council when things were good and now they cant get off fast enough, from what i have seen and read i think if asfc went under tomorrow only 1600 or so loyal fans would cry in their beer this town do,es not deserve stanley, remember last season big gates, open top tour of the town, civic reception where are they all now, one thing i am glad about is that EW did not take up the freedom of the borough offer i would gladly ring HBC tomorrow on behalf of stanley and tell them to stick it right were the sun don,t shine they have had a perfect opportunity to back the pride of lancashire and what have they done NOTHING, heres an idea instead of spending a small fortune of tax payers money on broadway and the market hall in the hope attracting a better class of pound shop why not give some money to stanley to put a roof over the clayton end, some bloody hope, even better idea sack a couple of councillers and save their big fat salaries and we could have a roof for both ends HBC and so called suporters of the reds you are a disgrace.
Anyway now i have got some of that of my chest i,m ready for tuesday standing on the clayton end having some light hearted banter with the visiting keeper in the wind and rain,im also ready for next season in leauge two or not, because i support ACCRINGTON STANLEY the club that would not(and will not) die
 
maccawozzagod said:
The OSC has moved on from Unibond organisation, what we need is people to now turn up and offer their help and their ideas at the next meeting.
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Would that be Monday 5th Feb? In the Sportsbar? @ 7 ish?

[Not promising, but this forum's getting too difficult to follow. :rolleyes: ]
 
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