You've got 15 what are you worried about?
Whatever you do Doug , dont change, I love reading your replys.
I really don't see the point in Karma. Whether you agree with somebody else's view point or not is your own business, and Karma seems to be a way of showing disagreement or agreement. I think it's better to state your opinion openly in any thread and just say what you feel or think about a particular issue. To me personally, it seems a backdoor method of trying to slap somebody on the back or across their face, without them knowing who has done it!
To all of you...just keep playing it the way you've always played it and be yourself. I can stand a great deal of open honest discussion and opinion.
To all of you...just keep playing it the way you've always played it and be yourself. I can stand a great deal of open honest discussion and opinion.
So basically if you reply to a posting and other persons takes offence then they could basically throw you out.What ever happened to freedom of speech?an honest opinion of anything is worth a lot more from my point of view.Why agree with something that you do not think is ok, or you cannot justify putting people down because you do not like them.Some of the points they make maybe valid
It would take alot of people before a person could lose too much karma, free speech is there to be used but with it comes the responsibility that if what you post annoys other people e.g. changing the original theme of the Karma topic started by Anthonys into a platform whereby some bleeding heart can moan on about how badly done to they are feeling because of other members reactions. I have had mixed reaction to many of my threads some people agreed some didn't & this was reflected in the way that people affected my karma points. Not every-one wants to post on every thread that they read but if on the whole they agree, then up goes your karma, If they disagree, then down goes your karma. I think before you can either add or subtract from a persons karma a second time you have to have shall we say, Voted for (rather than picked on) 10 other people & their threads. So can we now get back to the original postees topic & leave the free speech soap box alone!Mik Dickinson said:
I respect your point of view less, and by doing so I have no desire to criticise anything you say. But I think it’s unfortunate that terms like bleeding heart is use to describe what is just another persons point of view. If anyone as answered the question here and given at least to my mind the best direction is lettie. Maybe Karma wouldn’t be such an issue if we all followed her example.
Oh dear, here we go, let me pass you a tissue, I know I have just said something that you don't agree with & by your reply can see that you are yet again going to take it personal. Well I can't blame you, because yet again you personally have used the karma thread without adding anything to the topic of.... Karma. When I first read anthonys's thread I thought this guy will welcome some encouragement so I gave him some karma points, after all he is new to the site & rather than discourage I am all for encouraging all members.Doug said:
However take a look @ the post immediately after his & you will see as no doubt the rest of us did, some-one introducing themselves with a negative attitude. I agree whole-heartedly with letties attitude towards karma. what I disagree with is the attitude of people that don't seem to be able to follow the plot either in some-ones thread or in real life. I have seen some of your answers to peoples posts & when you are not busy apologising for suffering from foot in mouth disease & then trying to put the blame onto every-one else, you have got a talent for some witty & dare I say reasonably intelligent view points unfortunately finding these paritcular posts of yours is made difficult by the dross that you put onto the site. Please, before you come back @ me all fired up, take a deep breathe, count to ten & consider, is what Less has said something that deserves a Reply?
I would now like to finish with a positive attitude & that is that I for one look forward to your continued posting on the site & hope that once you realise that I am neither for or against you that we can have many more serious & lite-hearted discussions.
Bloody Hell Less keep your tissues mate I’ve box’s full, Maybe your right, maybe it’s a matter of interpretation, individual or otherwise, but at the end of the day I don’t think any one of us is perfect,
I may have a problem I don’t know, I don’t set out to blame or put on anyone, nor force my point of view on others and for once I’m not apologising. If however, I do cause genuine offence to someone then I believe its right to apologise simple as that really.
I will irrespectively, but respectfully continue to post on the threads and I hope that the continent of what I post appeals to most people if not then what I say will just be another opinion. Is that not what it’s about?
I may have a problem I don’t know, I don’t set out to blame or put on anyone, nor force my point of view on others and for once I’m not apologising. If however, I do cause genuine offence to someone then I believe its right to apologise simple as that really.
I will irrespectively, but respectfully continue to post on the threads and I hope that the continent of what I post appeals to most people if not then what I say will just be another opinion. Is that not what it’s about?
If I post something I will not apologise if someone does not agree with my view, but I hope I will never post a personal attack such as the one Less made on Doug earlier in this thread. This karma thing if you didn't know is making members not want to post in fear of losing enough so they lose their membership of this forum but I cannot ignore Less's post and fully expect to see my karma total go down.
Not if there's any merit in this site or its people Bagpuss. And not if I can help it, now I have had a good laugh with Sara and Shrum tonight and I'm well on the way.............Nissed.
Less has an opinion, he made his statement and I’m sure his feelings are genuine, that’s his prerogative and I’m not criticising him for that. But I do agree that it is counter productive for us to attack each other for our opinions, we can’t afford to stifle opinion or debate on this site, if people as you quite rightly say, are afraid too post because they fear counter criticism them there’s no point in being here.
Obviously some agree with the gentleman and others don’t, I call that democracy. However, Bagpuss, I applaud your stand and your support and it is appreciated. And I can tell that it’s appreciated by more people than just me. You’re a gentleman sir.
Anyone one wanting an apology can go p*** up a tree. lol
Less has an opinion, he made his statement and I’m sure his feelings are genuine, that’s his prerogative and I’m not criticising him for that. But I do agree that it is counter productive for us to attack each other for our opinions, we can’t afford to stifle opinion or debate on this site, if people as you quite rightly say, are afraid too post because they fear counter criticism them there’s no point in being here.
Obviously some agree with the gentleman and others don’t, I call that democracy. However, Bagpuss, I applaud your stand and your support and it is appreciated. And I can tell that it’s appreciated by more people than just me. You’re a gentleman sir.
Anyone one wanting an apology can go p*** up a tree. lol
i do find that when all said and done there are a lot of people who take offence where i would belive there is no offence meant
so your happy enough to post a response when its a personal attack (as you word it) on doug but when its anybody else say Kipax for example its ok??
I'm not saying its right for anybody to make "personal attacks" but i think the point made by less was valid IMHO. I have read posts with "personal attacks" on other members when thay have not had a valid point and seen no defence for it.
As for the comment about your karma being effected, personally i dont think that anything that you have said could possibly warrant changing karma. After all we are all entitled to an oppinion. Although in the last few days since the start of this thread the ammount of changing karma is unbelievable. Doug for example is now on 29. 2 days ago he was fearing he would have nothing. And with no disrespect to Doug if people were giving karma for good reason why has Dougs doubled in 2 days.
This was all seen on the old accyweb and the old sytem and that was abused the same as this one is, and at the end of the day this was programmed by Roy in his own time as a "feature " of Accyweb, so if it carries on being abused than surely Roy is waisting his own time???? IMHO
I'm not saying its right for anybody to make "personal attacks" but i think the point made by less was valid IMHO. I have read posts with "personal attacks" on other members when thay have not had a valid point and seen no defence for it.
As for the comment about your karma being effected, personally i dont think that anything that you have said could possibly warrant changing karma. After all we are all entitled to an oppinion. Although in the last few days since the start of this thread the ammount of changing karma is unbelievable. Doug for example is now on 29. 2 days ago he was fearing he would have nothing. And with no disrespect to Doug if people were giving karma for good reason why has Dougs doubled in 2 days.
This was all seen on the old accyweb and the old sytem and that was abused the same as this one is, and at the end of the day this was programmed by Roy in his own time as a "feature " of Accyweb, so if it carries on being abused than surely Roy is waisting his own time???? IMHO
Going back to the old accy web i remember me being personally attacked by certain long standing members of this web site.Did i flinch no i still passed on my views and ignored the personal remarks made about me.In the end all it boiled down was that with me being new some people hqad the feeling they were being pushed out.Does not bother me in the slightest i like to take people as they come
No offence is taken wingy, but if people wish to express their opinion thought the use of Karma then I would suggest in my humble opinion that the system works. Obviously some will support one or other side in this matter, some couldn’t give a **** and other will remain impartial. I for one don’t mind the personal attacks in this instance because it is just an opinion that another individual.
You are right about massive increases in Karma; some are going through the roof. Maybe it’s just because people respect an opinion or may be its individual support, if it’s the latter then I would worry because that will split the site, not opinion and that can only be bad for all of us, that said there’s only a small number of folks involved in this and that should be easy for us to meet an accord that makes this site what it is. Democratic...
Just for the record less I give Karma to the lad for the same reason and at the time I said what as led to this interlude, I continue to give Karma ever time it let’s me to people who I feel merit it…it is a privilege and I respect that and award accordingly as I’m sure others do.
You are right about massive increases in Karma; some are going through the roof. Maybe it’s just because people respect an opinion or may be its individual support, if it’s the latter then I would worry because that will split the site, not opinion and that can only be bad for all of us, that said there’s only a small number of folks involved in this and that should be easy for us to meet an accord that makes this site what it is. Democratic...
Just for the record less I give Karma to the lad for the same reason and at the time I said what as led to this interlude, I continue to give Karma ever time it let’s me to people who I feel merit it…it is a privilege and I respect that and award accordingly as I’m sure others do.
Sorry, I didn't mean to cause a full on debate amondgst you all. It seems I touched a very sore subjectAnthonyS said:How do I turn my karma off? I seem to have only 8 karma yet I haven't done anything badso I want to turn it off.
. I won't want to turn it off now because I somehow gained a lot of karma now, but did anybody actually answer my question? Can I turn it off or not 
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At the moment AnthonyS you cannot turn your karma on or off.AnthonyS said:Sorry, I didn't mean to cause a full on debate amondgst you all. It seems I touched a very sore subject