They're not the people who are going to decide on the next government - simple as.
Labour Party
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Well to be honest i would prefer Torys than your Labour. may not be perfect but at least labour let the supporters vote.
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Ok, well, you'll probably get 'em the way the Labour party's going.
Yer sounding like the "Blairites" instead of accepting a democratic result and just bitching, i find that really pathetic. Its people like that, that got Corbyn elected in my view.Ordinary people were sick to the back teeth of it, you may accept it, but i never will.
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The REAL democratic result will be the result out in the country at the time of the next election.
it will it always is, like it or lump it thats democracy.
I agree.
people joined the labour party in droves(this always caused me some concern - yes I know Iam a cynical old baggage) so that they could vote on the leadership issue....now who is to say that these were REALLY supporters of the Labour Party and not planted to make for a leader that was considered to be unelectable at a general election....i know this sounds very 'conspiracy' like, but it IS possible.
He has divided the party and that is never a good thing.
Many people who vote Labour are not members of the Labour party.......but they are the ones who ultimately decide on who is going to be in power......so in essence Steve is right.
It is like this petition to make to government debate a second referendum....who is to say that those who are signing it are not disgruntled Remain voters(and I know that 77,000 votes have been discarded as fraudulent) who hope for a second bite at the cherry...and all those who are portrayed to be regretting voting to leave....the question could not have been clearer, so what did they think they were voting for?
He has divided the party and that is never a good thing.
Many people who vote Labour are not members of the Labour party.......but they are the ones who ultimately decide on who is going to be in power......so in essence Steve is right.
It is like this petition to make to government debate a second referendum....who is to say that those who are signing it are not disgruntled Remain voters(and I know that 77,000 votes have been discarded as fraudulent) who hope for a second bite at the cherry...and all those who are portrayed to be regretting voting to leave....the question could not have been clearer, so what did they think they were voting for?
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Thanks, Margaret. Exactly my point!
You are welcome Steve.
Utter rubbish, should everyone get a vote on who is Tory Leader or any other party? never heard such nonsense.people who can be bothered to pay the membership fees are the only ones who should vote,
When the labour leadership became vacant and the candidates were put up, there were droves of people joining the Labour Party....paying their three quid just for the privilege of voting(for Jeremy Corbyn).....but who is to say that these were bona fide labour supporters.
They may not even have ever voted labour. They may have wanted to divide the Labour Party.....a divided party is not one that is easily electable.....and does not form a sound opposition.
If thats what happened it would be a damn shame, i don't believe for 1 min that was the case,the only people i see who want to divide are those quitters and those who support this,
Utter rubbish, should everyone get a vote on who is Tory Leader or any other party? never heard such nonsense.
Internal leadership elections are up to each political party to sort out. But in the final analysis, the general election is the one that REALLY counts and, in my opinion, Corbyn hasn't got what it takes to win one, no matter how highly his rank-and-file members may think of him.
I am not saying that people who joined the Labour Party at that time did so out of any reason than to be a labour supporter......but it is suspicious when a rank outsider is put up for leadership(and he WAS a rank outsider) and suddenly thousands of people are paying three quid so that they can cast a vote in the leadership election.
I would not join any political party so tha I could vote for a leader.....but looking at how things have gone it does seem plausible.
Labour are unelectable under the current leadership.
I would not join any political party so tha I could vote for a leader.....but looking at how things have gone it does seem plausible.
Labour are unelectable under the current leadership.
It is not beyond the realms of possibility that there were people out there who could see that by dividing a party, it would weaken it and make it less viable at a general election.
Heck if I can see this, then certainly others in a position to influence things could see it......and it was what sprang to my mind at the time.....like I say, I am a cynical old baggage.
Not in my eyes people were thoroughly sick of what the Labour Party had become, anyone that wasn't is a closet Tory in my book,
No one has mentioned that the Trade Unions back Corbyn 100 per cent
They wont jim, its become a media circus i think, the only thing is itssplitting the party even more.