Local pollution

MargaretR

MargaretR

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Now that the scheme for redevelopment of the Gateway at Church is likely to be abandoned due to the Health and Safety risk of the proximity of Wm Blythes, I have websearched for this gov site which shows the sort of hazards Blythes poses. It also shows all the hazardous industries in the locality. (It needs updating because Cockers on New Lane is now closed).
If an industry is spoiling the redevelopment and imporovement of our district, how easy or how difficult would it be for our local council to insist that it be relocated?
Ps I have had to delete the link because it sends you to the flood map - if you search there - Enviro Agency - you will find it
 
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Interesting question Margaret. In the first instance, in all matters like this, the ultimate criteria is the question of 'Need' i.e. so employment/money spinner that Blythes bring in over-shadows the projected employment/commercial/aesthitics viability of the proposed plans.. health reasons is the big one. Doubt whether we could shift 'em due to these criterias.

Presume, that was what it was decided on in the end.

As in the Whitebirk thread being discussed .... all financial really, to bring money into the pot to keep us all in the style we are used to ... :D And build for the future of course.
 
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http://www.wm-blythe.co.uk/WMBLYTHE/website.nsf/History!OpenPage
They have 200 employees including Hapton.
How many more than those 200 have health problems due to the proximity of their factory to dense housing - I suspect many more.
I have seen too many workers at that site die before they reach retirement.
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Feel sure guidances are really tight now though, through Health and Safety measures. Like the turning down of this application 'cause could be a risk to those working around it ?

Think of all the compensation claims that would be entered from people working in other buildings should they be struck with the slightest illness.
Even though, not the cause, not worth the court case costs at the end of the day of proving their illness was from other areas.
 
So what about the people who live in those newish houses Alleytroyds? They are surely in the line of fire. I wonder how much my health was affected by working under those Blythes yellow clouds for years. I have breathing problems now. Maybe there's a connection, who knows.
 
What constitutes an Industrial disease has always lagged behind the actuality.
EG- Only in recent years has 'Industrial Deafness' been added to the list which qualify for compensation.
The situation is made more difficult when poor general health has led to early death -no doubt enviromental pollution contributed to poor general health but cannot be pinpointed as the cause.
Statistics on premature death are difficult to find , but it is a generally accepted fact that the NW region (due to our industrial heritage) has a shorter life expectancy than most.
 
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WillowTheWhisp said:
So what about the people who live in those newish houses Alleytroyds? They are surely in the line of fire. I wonder how much my health was affected by working under those Blythes yellow clouds for years. I have breathing problems now. Maybe there's a connection, who knows.
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My son and his wife lived in Church at the time of the birth of their 1st child and moved away just before the birth of their 2nd. That eldest child of the three is the only one affected by asthma.
 
Don't Blythes have to abide by some sort of Health and Safety codes themselves? If not surely they should do. I know it's not as grim in Church as it used to be.
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
Don't Blythes have to abide by some sort of Health and Safety codes themselves? If not surely they should do. I know it's not as grim in Church as it used to be.
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That Enviro site lists the times that they have exceeded permitted polution limits - not many - but who decides what limits are 'safe'? and new health research shows that many other so called safe limits in the past weren't. The only way to be 'safe' from pollution is to move it as far away as possible from populations - difficult in our overcrowded island - but 'on our doorstep'! - NO
 
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So what about the people who live in those newish houses Alleytroyds?
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A little off topic I know but a few years ago I was listening using a radio scanner to a mobile phone conversation between a local football player and a 'lady' who lived on Alleytroyds, he was booking her for an evening of errrrmmmm pleasure, if you know what I mean ;):D
 
i lived in church for years n always blamed blythes, for the pollution, then in 77 i started work there and discovered, most of the pollution i was blaming them for was coming from Ashworths. worked there for nearly 23 yrs, was on all the commitees as well as the union, and you wouldn,t credit how keen they are on health n safety,they aint perfect,no-one is,but an important fact is the factory was there Before any of the houses, used to be a row of cottages down the bottom of the site by the brook, not sure about those,but they were gone before i was born.
 
Neil said:
A little off topic I know but a few years ago I was listening using a radio scanner to a mobile phone conversation between a local football player and a 'lady' who lived on Alleytroyds, he was booking her for an evening of errrrmmmm pleasure, if you know what I mean ;):D
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There was a woman on there who used to do outside catering.

Lovely finger buffets.
 
cashman said:
i lived in church for years n always blamed blythes, for the pollution, then in 77 i started work there and discovered, most of the pollution i was blaming them for was coming from Ashworths. worked there for nearly 23 yrs, was on all the commitees as well as the union, and you wouldn,t credit how keen they are on health n safety,they aint perfect,no-one is,but an important fact is the factory was there Before any of the houses, used to be a row of cottages down the bottom of the site by the brook, not sure about those,but they were gone before i was born.
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So the houses were built to house the workers, in the days when the working population was an expendable commodity, and needed to be located near their worksite.
Now that we know better than to make such planning disasters, which do we move now - the houses or the factory?
 
sorry Margaret , have to disagree , providing the company is operating within the rules they have a right to be there , the argument is a bit like the one where folks buy homes near an airport then start complaing about the noise and demanding double glazing
 
steeljack said:
sorry Margaret , have to disagree , providing the company is operating within the rules they have a right to be there , the argument is a bit like the one where folks buy homes near an airport then start complaing about the noise and demanding double glazing
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I can see your point Jack. We have the option of leaving this bad planning by our ancestors as it is, or trying to improve a blackspot in our town. It would br easier to resite this factory than to resite hundreds of people - that is if we really want to improve the area of Church - I am sad that even considering it has low priority.
 
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I can see your point Jack. We have the option of leaving this bad planning by our ancestors as it is, or trying to improve a blackspot in our town. It would br easier to resite this factory than to resite hundreds of people - that is if we really want to improve the area of Church - I am sad that even considering it has low priority.
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think the folks in the Ribble valley around Clitheroe have been fighting a similar battle for years with Ribble Cement and if the "money' folks in the Ribble valley have been unsuccesful I don't hold out much hope for Hyndburn,
also think this thread ties in with the other one about the decline in Church and it being 'downwind' from obnoxious odours from Ashworths glue works in Bridge st.
 
steeljack said:
think the folks in the Ribble valley around Clitheroe have been fighting a similar battle for years with Ribble Cement and if the "money' folks in the Ribble valley have been unsuccesful I don't hold out much hope for Hyndburn,
also think this thread ties in with the other one about the decline in Church and it being 'downwind' from obnoxious odours from Ashworths glue works in Bridge st.
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When I lived there I regarded sulphur and arsenic more of a health hazard than boiled bones.
 
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