Milk

was that before breast milk was invented as well :rolleyes:

cows milk is meant for calfs, goats milk is meant for goats, human breast milk is mean for babies..... you cant tell me that cows naturally make that milk fo us to drink?

Nay Emamum
The cows of today were bred purposely to produce milk long after their offspring had ceased suckling.
If you want to be really pedantic what food product, that swims, runs, fly's or grows out of the ground is for the use of mankind.

Humans took advantage of what was available and killed it or cultivated it to survive. A vicar looking at my garden said isn't God wonderfull, my reply to that was you should have seen it before I took over, it was a right mess.

Retlaw
 
I will buy the "Don't drink milk, it's meant only for calves" argument if anyone tells me that eating the poor, damned cow that produced the milk is just as bad for you. I bow to any vegans who are members of Accyweb, you do have the right to condemn milk-drinking, but the meat eaters really should think about their position. If milk is bad for you what does rump steak do?


i didnt say it was bad for us, i said it wasnt designed for us....

sorry margaret, that may have been my fault

back on topic, i'm allergic to cows milk unless i'm pregnant, i get stomach cramps and vmitting if i have to much, im used to it now and can gauge when ive had enough and tbh i'd rather have a delicious cheesecake (sparkie ;) ) and a bit of a tummy upset than go without :D
 
That seems like a personal allergy problem, nothing to do with the product.
:confused:


.. it doesn't sound like an allergy to me. Allergies are life threatening and this isn't. It sounds like an intolerance to lactose to me, this is just one of the irritations of life !!
 
I think the problem today is far more people suffer from allergies than ever before, mainly because of all the additives used in processing. Dairy products such as milk are one of the main trigger factors in asthma, but unfortunately due to modern day living there are many many trigger factors for that particularly disorders than say 50 years ago, when I was growin up, I didn't start with asthma until I was 34 although I always had a weak chest due to the fact I had pneumonia when I was 6 months old
 
.. it doesn't sound like an allergy to me. Allergies are life threatening and this isn't. It sounds like an intolerance to lactose to me, this is just one of the irritations of life !!


You took the words right out of my mouth......still, the apple never falls far from the tree does it :D ?
 
So you haven't seen the detailed description of how the casein protein in milk contributes to arterial heart disease.
It's too late for you to be bothered now - had the surgery haven't you.:rolleyes:

I got the information from my surgeon. And I've had the surgery. Didn't hurt a bit; slept right through it. Now I drink skim milk (or sometimes1%) or soy milk. Comes in several flavors, and doesn't taste all that bad. And now I read labels. Whenever I feel like pigging out on things I shouldn't eat, I remember (vaguely) those 4 days in the ICU, when all I got was slivers of ice, and whatever went through the tubes.:eek:

And for our friends south of the border: it was all free.:theband:
 

Sorry to shout you down Jen.
Long life milk on my pobbies.
White wine with my salad or G&T.
The subtle taste of brandy from Jerez to see the day out.
No Lager, no beer, no bullshine....I'm happy.
Don't believe all you read in comic cuts :)
 
The rice 'milk' I had delivered on Tuesday is 'wathery' stuff - coffee is better bout it - but it is passable in tea.
I have a carton of oat 'milk' to try after this rice 'milk' is finished.

whisper -3 days and bowels are better already ;)

I must admit to having icecream at Francos tonight
I am not trying to be a martyr
 
Ok, Margaret , decided to follow your advice and try some "non-dairy" milk substitute drink , my local health conscious grocery has a new product on sale "Organic Whole grain drink" , made with organic bown rice, amaranth, millet (budgie food !!!) and quinoa, plus enriched with vitamins A,D,B12 and calcium. stuff tastes ok , but can't figure out how something "organic" can have a expiry date of July 2 2010. :eek: :eek:
 
Ok, Margaret , decided to follow your advice and try some "non-dairy" milk substitute drink , my local health conscious grocery has a new product on sale "Organic Whole grain drink" , made with organic bown rice, amaranth, millet (budgie food !!!) and quinoa, plus enriched with vitamins A,D,B12 and calcium. stuff tastes ok , but can't figure out how something "organic" can have a expiry date of July 2 2010. :eek: :eek:

Strange you should mention that date: that's the date my surgeon tattooed on my ass after surgery .... and I'm organic ... at least, I think I am:rolleyes:
 
I avoid all soya products
CONCERNS REGARDING SOYBEANS
There are conflicting reports available - best to read both sides before you decide whether to include it in your diet.
My policy is 'when in doubt don't' - other people are less cautious.

I have tried 'oat milk' and 'rice milk'
Both have get a 'sludge' settlement in the bottom of the carton, even when you remember to shake before pouring.
This sludge is unpleasant to find at the bottom of your cuppa.
I now drink coffee black and use a splash of rice milk in tea.
 
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