Minimum wage in Prison?!

WillowTheWhisp

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An item on the radio this morning was discussing whether prisoners who work should be allowed to keep all the money they earn or if a proportion should go into a fund to compensate victims of crime

Like the interviewer I naïvely thought that they earned a pittance which could just be spent on a few trivialities in prison, but no - it appears that they earn 'at least' the minimum wage! Now surely that makes them better off than people not in prison who also earn very low wages and yet have to pay rent, gas, electricity, council tax, water rates and buy their own food and clothing?

Isn't there something a bit not right there? :confused:
 
Thats why jail is so popular these days. I agree the money they earn should be taxed for the sake of the victims. If they are being paid a minimum then take of board and lodgings as well.
 
No ther should not be given anything. They should be given the worst cheapest stuff ever to keep costs down. They dont like it? Dont break the law then.
 
tadah said:
No ther should not be given anything. They should be given the worst cheapest stuff ever to keep costs down. They dont like it? Dont break the law then.
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mr Magic did you get out of the wrong side of bed this morning? Even I wouldnt have them using cheap soap and deoderant as that would be bad for the atmosphere.

:p :D
 
LOL no im in a very good mood today as ive just recieve my tax rebate. Not a bad start to a monday morning to get the tax man saying hey carl have £417
 
err, shouldn't that read "Hey Carl, heres that £417 that we've overcharged you that you have lost interest/investment opportunity on"

As for prisoners... they should earn minimum wage for their work and all the money given/shared between the victims of their crimes for the whole period of their detention.

Prison life should be hard, it should be uncomfortable, it should itself be the deterrent to re-offending.
 
Yeah thats true ian but its still a nice suprise when you didnt know anything about it lol.
 
entwisi said:
As for prisoners... they should earn minimum wage for their work and all the money given/shared between the victims of their crimes for the whole period of their detention.

Prison life should be hard, it should be uncomfortable, it should itself be the deterrent to re-offending.
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I totally agree with both of those points. No doubt there'll be people saying that it infringes on their human rights though. :rolleyes:
 
Prison is mean to put them off breaking the law right so why give them anything better than the basic cheapest stuff.
 
Human rights, they shouldn't have any, the fact that they earn minimum wage is an insult to law abiding citizens, they should work for pence and the rest is for their keep at least then the tax payers wouldn't be footing the bill.
 
entwisi said:
Prison life should be hard, it should be uncomfortable, it should itself be the deterrent to re-offending.
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which is what i've been saying all along!
for fear of severe retribution yet again i still say prisoners get too cushy a life and prison offers no reasons to 'go straight'

well why should they when they get free bed and board, no bills , computers,sky tv,games consoles etc.and a wage to boot!
 
tadah said:
Prison is mean to put them off breaking the law right so why give them anything better than the basic cheapest stuff.
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This isn't about any 'stuff' - whether they work or not the prisoners will have the same 'stuff' - same food, same TV, same recreational facilities, same chance of open university courses, which is a different subject; although I do agree with you that they shouldn't get all these things. Then you get people coming along who say that prison isn't a holiday camp and that it's a really hard life for them in there. It's a bloomin harder life for a lot of people out here! Oh and thank you for the silly karma deduction which makes no more sense than your response to this topic did :D

grego said:
Human rights, they shouldn't have any, the fact that they earn minimum wage is an insult to law abiding citizens, they should work for pence and the rest is for their keep at least then the tax payers wouldn't be footing the bill.
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I agree that they should forfeit any rights when they are convicted of a crime - I mean convicted criminals not those on remand who may be proven innocent. I was gobsmacked to find that they earn at least the minimum wage. At least? What does that mean some of them may be earning then? And no bills to pay!!! So they are a darned site better off in prison, full pay and nothing to spend it on. It's an insult to the victims of their crimes.
 
Thats the problem these days prison is not a deterent, infact its a cushy life for some, and its costing the tax payers a fortune.
 
I'm sure most people are unaware that they get paid normal wages for the work they do. Bring back sewing mail bags and breaking rocks!
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
Oh and thank you for the silly karma deduction which makes no more sense than your response to this topic did :D
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And leaving bad karma like this makes sense does it?...

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Nobody said what? Which bit are you talking about? Sign it at least please willow
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
I'm sure most people are unaware that they get paid normal wages for the work they do. Bring back sewing mail bags and breaking rocks!
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I was unaware that they got minimum wage and quite shocked by it, though shouldn't be surprised really this country is just getting softer and softer.
 
I don't know why you didn't get the whole lot tadah - for some reason you didn't but if you really want me to post it all in full here I will do so and then perhaps we can get back to the subject.

I can't remember the exact wording and, as I told you, I can't get back the page to have a look at it, but what I said in full was along the lines of:

'nobody said that even though I agree with your point, it's a different topic. What I don't agree with is your personal insult to Jambutty in your avatar - Willow'

Like I say. I can't remember the exact wording but that was the gist of it. I deducted karma from you for the avatar. I had to link it to a post and your post in this thread was saying something which didn't make sense in follow up to the previous posts because nobody had said anything about that - hence my opening words 'nobody said that' which seems to be the only bit you received.

If you want to know which post I linked it from you can find that out by clicking the karma, but it isn't really relevant as I have already explained to you by PM. The karma deduction was not for the content of the post but for the content of your avatar, which at the time I was not aware had been granted permission by the moderators. I still stand by my opinion of it though in spite of that. Sorry mods, but it's just my personal feelings about the subject that I'm expressing here.

As I said in my PM tadah, if you find someone's posts boring nobody is forcing you to read them. If I find a thread or a post boring I just skip on to something else that I'm interested in. Something which you find boring others may find interesting and vice versa. There have been some posts which have not interested me in the slightest but which others have responded to and have found fascinating and even helpful to them.

It's not compulsory for every post to appeal to every member.

My karma deduction was for a specific reason, which I felt strongly enough to deduct karma for - yours in retaliation was just plain silly.
 
grego said:
I was unaware that they got minimum wage and quite shocked by it, though shouldn't be surprised really this country is just getting softer and softer.
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Gets any softer and Johnstons and certain soap powders will be suing the govenment.
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