Missing dog
- Thread starter Jae Swift
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Just trying to clarify this statement for future reference that's all ... bit ambiguous .. not actually saying whether they will take it straight to the kennels or not ... just they will attempt to try and find the owner.
Not assuming anything Neil ... this point did cross my mind too.
I agree ... is the owner's responsibility ... just a bad mistake, just can understand how it may have happened if on an open collection, trying to make the lad feel a little better.Panther said earlier that it was a furniture collection so yes, they would have had to leave the door unlocked.
The binmen should have closed the door behind them but didn't, which is bad manners but not against the law as far as I am aware.
Even if the binmen had closed the gate behind them the dog could still have escaped in this scenario if it had darted out past the binmen as soon as they opened the gate.
I can't see how the dog getting out could possibly be the fault of the binmen.
I am not accusing Jae of bad ownership at all. I just think he made a mistake in this instance. The dog should not have been unsecured in the yard when a collection was due.
Yes it is the first time the dog has been picked up!
Well they didnt did they
Yes it is the first time the dog has been picked up!
Well they didnt did they
So the dog wasn't chipped and didn't have a collar on, not exactly easiest thing in the world to trace where it has come from without either of those.
It might be worth mentioning that this is the first time and that he thought there was no charge first time.
Even better if anyone can find a link saying that you don't pay first time. I had a little look but find HBC's webpage not very easy to find info.
It was the warden that rung them to say they had found him.So the dog wasn't chipped and didn't have a collar on, not exactly easiest thing in the world to trace where it has come from without either of those.
Ok, so the dog warden found the dog and knew where it lived but made no effort to take it back, is that what we are saying here?
So either the dog warden failed in his duty to try and reunite the dog and owner or it wasn't the first time it had happened.
Questions should be asked of the dog warden, maybe the dog had done something in it's time of freedom that gave cause for concern, difficult to know without the full info, either way , it's not the binmens fault, end of.
So either the dog warden failed in his duty to try and reunite the dog and owner or it wasn't the first time it had happened.
Questions should be asked of the dog warden, maybe the dog had done something in it's time of freedom that gave cause for concern, difficult to know without the full info, either way , it's not the binmens fault, end of.
That's not what I am saying Lindsay, the dog warden did obviously get in touch with the owner (according to Panther's post), so must have had some identification on it.
Just that the statement on the HBC website, makes it sound like the Dog Warden will get in touch with the owner before taking to the kennels and therefore would not incur the charge. That's what is not very clear.
That's what I was getting at, if the warden knew where it lived and there is a procedure in place then he should have followed it; either he hasn't followed the procedure or something else has happened to make him keep the dog in kennels. Very odd.
Where is the dog now? Has the charge been paid and is the dog back home?
Who knows? Jae was quick enough to tell us it was missing but precious little since..... maybe Panther can enlighten us.
I've read this with intrest. Someone let my 3 boxers out a few months ago on a Monday night when I had gone to work. They opened my gate and let them all go. My gate was locked. I got a phone call when I arrived home from work off someone at Aspen Valley. They'd just picked the dogs up and taken them straight there. I wanted to go and pick them up immediately and they wouldn't let me. I had to pick them up the day after and was charged £240 for the privelige. The week after on the Monday when I went to work (and had secured my dogs in the house) Some cheeky so and so opened my front door and let my dogs out again. Luckily my son was in at the time, (that's why the door was unlocked) He had to run out and get them all back in. I have my suspicions about who is responsible, but they can't do it again. I've had a lot more locks fitted to my doors now. Whenever anyone goes out now, the door locks behind them.
How the hell can anyone justify £240 for this?
It may be that one of councillors who come on here will be in a position to give us a breakdown on this disgraceful penalty?
That's what I was getting at, if the warden knew where it lived and there is a procedure in place then he should have followed it; either he hasn't followed the procedure or something else has happened to make him keep the dog in kennels. Very odd.
I think you will find the post from Suedardo very odd too, later in this thread. Procedure seems to be a licence to print money?
I believe the HBC website says if it's the first time they have been found they will contact the owner and your dog will be returned. It was the first time mine had been out and found, they were all chipped etc but I still had to pay. £70 per dog to the council, no idea what for, and £18 per dog for Aspen Valley having them overnight. (Even though I wanted to pick them up the night before)
the way i see this is the bin men n jay are partly to blame, but the real blame lies with the useless admin of our council, we have used this service twice in the last 8 yrs, both times we were told- leave yer back gate unlocked n we will collect in next fortnight / 10 days, which to me is unreasonable to leave yer backgate unbarred when no-one is in the house, also unreasonable to keep yer pet out of the yard fer so long. it aint rocket science all it needs is a phonecall the evening before telling ya were collecting tomorrow. also our dog got out 3 times in the first instance, paris thought i'd left the gate open, what was going on was oscar had his paw under the door waggling the sneck off (2" gap under bottom due to slope of yard) caught the little swine at it. theres all sorts of circumstances could have caused this, i reckon those that are casting blame have never had the misfortune to have to use this service.
what was going on was oscar had his paw under the door waggling the sneck off (2" gap under bottom due to slope of yard) caught the little swine at it. theres all sorts of circumstances could have caused this, i reckon those that are casting blame have never had the misfortune to have to use this service.yeh who says animals are dumb...umm snigger nice one
I once had a fridge which had no storage on the inside of the door, and so the door was lighter. My cat learnt how to open it.yeh who says animals are dumb.
There are plenty of humans who are far dumber than animals cashyyeh who says animals are dumb.
