Mosque at Ground Zero

Just heard some good news from a chum of mine over at the Royal Mint. The figurehead of Britannia is to be restored to all British coinage from 2012.

The bad news is she'll be wearing a Burka.
 
Just heard some good news from a chum of mine over at the Royal Mint. The figurehead of Britannia is to be restored to all British coinage from 2012.

The bad news is she'll be wearing a Burka.
How will we know its Britannia Tealeaf:rolleyes:
 
I work with Muslims. Each one of them was horrified by 9/11. None of them wear the burqa (full length garment with head covering) or niqab (full face veil).

All of them see themselves as British.

Clearly, however, there are some on this site who would disagree, going by the comments here. Even from the moderators, for God's sake.

Have you ever wondered if sometimes the way we treat others makes them behave in a particular way and that this is what causes the "problem"?

Didn't think so.
 
None of them wear the burqa (full length garment with head covering) or niqab (full face veil).All of them see themselves as British.

That's grand hiddle, but what about the ones that insist on wearing the aforesaid items & make an issue out of it & those that won't integrate, speak the language (or even learn it) but insist things should be done their way & when not bring down threats of death & destruction (Jihad)?

Those are the individuals that bring about the comments & attitudes so often displayed within these pages. I myself have worked with many different people with different backgrounds, beliefs, faiths & Nationalities. Working together with all these folk & there has not been a conflict or clash of interests as we all adapted & gave concessions to one another, which sadly isn't the case in many instances in the UK that are highlighted on here.
 
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Have you ever wondered if sometimes the way we treat others makes them behave in a particular way and that this is what causes the "problem"?


We could turn that around too, and ask that question of religious fundamentalists.

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That's grand hiddle, but what about the ones that insist on wearing the aforesaid items & make an issue out of it & those that won't integrate, speak the language (or even learn it) but insist things should be done their way & when not bring down threats of death & destruction (Jihad)?

Those are the individuals that bring about the comments & attitudes so often displayed within these pages. I myself have worked with many different people with different backgrounds, beliefs, faiths & Nationalities. Working together with all these folk & there has not been a conflict or clash of interests as we all adapted & gave concessions to one another, which sadly isn't the case in many instances in the UK that are highlighted on here.
Think you've hit the nail on the head there Dave, don't really need to add to it:mosher:
 
Have you ever wondered if sometimes the way we treat others makes them behave in a particular way and that this is what causes the "problem"?

Didn't think so.

The reverse is certainly true, have you thought that?

Several years ago during one of the petrol shortages, a garage in Blackburn put a sign up outside saying 'Asians Only' and got nicely away with it.

During various conflicts with the Middle East we have had so-called 'British' Muslims travelling out of this country to fight for the enemy against the Allied Forces and then returning to Great Britain afterwards to resume life as a citizen here. The danger is tarring all Muslims with the same brush but my view is that you respect the way of life in whichever country you choose to live.

If I stomped over to Iraq or Afghanistan and started demanding things like bacon and eggs as a minority right then I would not expect a very warm welcome and quite rightly so.
 
If I stomped over to Iraq or Afghanistan and started demanding things like bacon and eggs as a minority right then I would not expect a very warm welcome and quite rightly so.
No Ken they'd throw you in jail, then deport you, double quick
 
Clearly, however, there are some on this site who would disagree, going by the comments here. Even from the moderators, for God's sake.

Something else about being English, we are allowed to have a sense of humour.

Please refrain from using God's name without respect.
 
I work with Muslims. Each one of them was horrified by 9/11. None of them wear the burqa (full length garment with head covering) or niqab (full face veil).

All of them see themselves as British.

Clearly, however, there are some on this site who would disagree, going by the comments here. Even from the moderators, for God's sake.

Have you ever wondered if sometimes the way we treat others makes them behave in a particular way and that this is what causes the "problem"?

Didn't think so.

'Think tank finds evidence of moderate Muslims being radicalised and Jewish students intimidated.'

Read more: University urged to take action against Islamic extremists | Mail Online

Perhaps it's time the moderates became a little more vocal, and started condemning those who seek to destroy our democracy.

(Although this seems a typical Mail story, I read Quilliam's report in the Sunday Times, but you can't now link that paper's web site.)
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Perhaps it's time the moderates became a little more vocal, and started condemning those who seek to destroy our democracy.​
I think that's the problem, although the moderates seem to go through the motions of decrying extremism in Islam, its only lip service and actually stands for nothing
 
A man with close links to Islamic fundamentalism and the backing of prominent racists could this week be elected as the executive mayor of a council, with almost total control over its £1 billion budget.

PICS AND PUBLISH Tower Hamlets extremist vote poses Ed's first big election test - Telegraph

I think we'd be pretty stupid to ignore religious fundamentalists, who are openly sexist, homophobic, racist, and intolerant of other faiths. Especially ones who take advantage of our country's liberalism, and welfare state, but whose stated intention is to see Sharia law replace British laws.
 
We already have stomped over to Iraq and Afghanistan. Your beloved Tony made sure of that when he was trotting meekly along behind good ole George. :rolleyes:

You're assuming that I agree with everything that Tony Blair did. Bad move.

He was doing reasonably well until getting into bed with Dubya, after which the country seemed to lose faith in him....

I'm in the 'against' camp as far as the Iraq war is concerned and even the Russians couldn't control Afghanistan, which should have been a hint.
 
You're assuming that I agree with everything that Tony Blair did. Bad move.

He was doing reasonably well until getting into bed with Dubya, after which the country seemed to lose faith in him....

I'm in the 'against' camp as far as the Iraq war is concerned and even the Russians couldn't control Afghanistan, which should have been a hint.

Stop agreeing with me, Ken...you're making me nervous! ;)
 
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