Mosque at Ground Zero

jaysay said:
I think that's the problem, although the moderates seem to go through the motions of decrying extremism in Islam, its only lip service and actually stands for nothing
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Of course you can provide evidence?

Didn't think so. Try talking to people from all walks of life. You'll learn a lot more than you will from the Daily Mail, Express, or for that matter Accyweb.

I cannot believe the level of ignorance I've seen in discussing race here, including from people who would lead us. You should hang your heads in shame. Instead, the racist clique has lost another member.

I know I won't be missed, but I can at least reciprocate with a clear conscience. I even know what one is.
 
Hiddlebit said:
Of course you can provide evidence?

Didn't think so. Try talking to people from all walks of life. You'll learn a lot more than you will from the Daily Mail, Express, or for that matter Accyweb.

I cannot believe the level of ignorance I've seen in discussing race here, including from people who would lead us. You should hang your heads in shame. Instead, the racist clique has lost another member.

I know I won't be missed, but I can at least reciprocate with a clear conscience. I even know what one is.
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So why don't you stay and argue your point of view? :confused:
 
Hiddlebit said:
I cannot believe the level of ignorance I've seen in discussing race here, including from people who would lead us. You should hang your heads in shame. Instead, the racist clique has lost another member.
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Talking of blind, ignorance, who besides yourself, has mentioned race?

Islam is a religion. Practiced like many other religions throughout the world, by people of many different races.

Before we all hang our heads in collective shame, we'll take a few moments to ponder your ignorant stupidity.

Before you foolishly try and play the racism card again, don't return to the playing table until you have a little more knowledge, regarding this subject.
 
...and as a mater of record, I have no problem with a mosque being built near the site of ground zero.

There are lots of other places of worship in the vicinity, and people of many differeing beliefs perished because of those terrible acts of terrorism.

My gripe is with extremism, which can be masked by any religion.

My gripe is also with the fundamentalist, ignorantly blinkered, and just plain stupid.
 
Hiddlebit said:
Of course you can provide evidence?

Didn't think so. Try talking to people from all walks of life. You'll learn a lot more than you will from the Daily Mail, Express, or for that matter Accyweb.

I cannot believe the level of ignorance I've seen in discussing race here, including from people who would lead us. You should hang your heads in shame. Instead, the racist clique has lost another member.

I know I won't be missed, but I can at least reciprocate with a clear conscience. I even know what one is.
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its you that should hang yer head in shame, yeh gotta be the dumbest member of this year at least. still i agree wi yer last paragraph- ya won't be missed.:rolleyes:
 
I would've liked to see him stay. He's obviously a bit of a pompous git and somewhat ill-informed in certain areas, but he seems to have views that are radically different than a lot of Accywebbers, so it might have led to some interesting arguments.

Never mind, we'll live. ;)
 
The problem here Hiddle is that folk will always have different viewpoints on various issues & especially one as emotive as this ! Religion will always be a bone of contention even amongst our own Christian faiths (Sectarianism in Ireland & to a lesser degree in Scotland).

That alone is bad enough within our shores but when an outside religion is brought into the picture ! Many Immigrants have come to the UK over the years bringing with them their culture & religions, they may have been viewed with scepticism & mistrust, but while maybe not totally accepted at least these ways were tolerated.

"Ignorance ?" Possibly, but as the times have changed & these "Minorities" make greater demands into our quaint, British way (the one that allowed them to continue with their Cultures & Religions) despite being guests, they have become occupiers & demanding more & more as our own heritage & Culture regresses & is continually pushed to the back by the overwhelming burden of Foreign Culture.

Jaysay made a point with which you disagreed,( for your reference I've included a few snippets, so in your own time ... ) you then followed this up by claiming :-

I cannot believe the level of ignorance I've seen in discussing race here, including from people who would lead us. You should hang your heads in shame. Instead, the racist clique has lost another member.

I do not class myself as either ignorant or racist, so to that end I find your comments well wide of the mark (just my British nature of course allows me, to allow you, to make such accusations without any comeback or retribution) As I've stated elsewhere I've worked, played & generally got on alongside people of many colours, creeds, races & religions. Again this is due to my own personal sense of fair play & acceptance a very British trait I think you'll agree ? Well possibly not from your postings here.

So the crux of the problem doesn't necessarily lie with the great British public, but with those who seek to destroy our tolerant & accepting nature, those who on the one hand decry these "Atrocities" in public but who then in private condone them ! Please before you disdain our views look long & hard at what is going on all around us every day !

Moderate Muslims in Luton, UK were not Moderate The Human Rights Coalition Against Radical Islam

Amanpour: Radical, moderate Muslims battle for young English minds - CNN

Moderate Muslim head of UK TV channel held on terror claims - Jihad Watch
 
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