mr britcliffe

Cyfr said:
Can you please let me have the figures for the expensive rent/rates you talk of?
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In a word no.

Do it yourself.

A quick search on any local commercial estate agent's site will prove my point.

Lancsdave posted the other week of the extortionate rent wanted for one empty retail unit in the Arndale, if you care to search through his posts.
 
garinda said:
It may not feel like it but even here in Hyndburn we've never had such a large disposable income.

Thirty five years ago the majority of people in Hyndburn didn't own a car. Now we have two car households, and many people, even those on benefits, have homes filled with the latest flat screened televisions, and all manor of electrical equipment.

Sadly much of this income is being spent in Hyndburn.
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I know what you mean, however I think credit has become easier, or more socially acceptable and its easier to buy these things, just harder to pay for them. I also think there is more peer pressure or 'keeping up with the Joneses' these days, and so people get upto their neck in debt, and so normal everyday buying suffers.

I am no huge political fan or take great interest in facts and figures, but would be interesting to know the %age difference between unemployed 10 years ago compared to now
 
garinda said:
In a word no.

Do it yourself.

A quick search on any local commercial estate agent's site will prove my point.

Lancsdave posted the other week of the extortionate rent wanted for one empty retail unit in the Arndale, if you care to search through his posts.
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Lets take the arndale example: £25,440 for the year.

Retailers, even in Accrington, have had turnover more than £10,000 in a day. Is the rent really that expensive when you look at it like that?
 
Lilly said:
There may be some of us who would spend our money in an Accrington branch of Next or River Island but it seems we are in the minority.

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Seemingly, the council did ask Next if they were interested in our town Lilly, but they turned us down (for the time being), probably holding out to see if anything moves on the proposed retail park at Whitebirk.... only my assumptions here though.

Don't think us Next/River Island/Oasis/Warehouse/Jane Norman buyers are in the minority at all. Now acquiring a large immigrant population, and they love these high street stores. Once they are there .. people will buy. Unfortunately, the Council members are not sales people, and do not know how to put forward a decent proposal.
 
garinda said:
If polled I wonder how many of the people actually living in Hyndburn would rate the quality of services provided by the council as being 'excellent'?
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The problem is knowing which Council is responsible for the service in question. My bins are always emptied which is HBC. The roads are in a very poor state which is LCC. The park is in a mess which is HBC, the trouble with that one is it has been in a mess for so long which Council was in power when it went down hill? Labour or Tory, I am not sure. We just blame HBC for things which means the Tories at the moment.
 
katex said:
the Council members are not sales people, and do not know how to put forward a decent proposal.
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That's a very important point.

We give massive budgets to people with no proven record in the commercial world, when really a lot of them would struggle to use an Etch A Sketch, never mind plan a long term retail stategy for the area.
 
garinda said:
That's a very important point.

We give massive budgets to people with no proven record in the commercial world, when really a lot of them would struggle to use an Etch A Sketch, never mind plan a long term retail stategy for the area.
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OK....I accept that......put your name forward for council?
 
Neil said:
The problem is knowing which Council is responsible for the service in question. My bins are always emptied which is HBC. The roads are in a very poor state which is LCC. The park is in a mess which is HBC, the trouble with that one is it has been in a mess for so long which Council was in power when it went down hill? Labour or Tory, I am not sure. We just blame HBC for things which means the Tories at the moment.
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I'm well aware that although our council is presently Conservative run, it is made up of councillors of all parties. Many of whom are more intent on squabbling with each other rather than working together for the good of the borough.
 
garinda said:
We give massive budgets to people with no proven record in the commercial world, when really a lot of them would struggle to use an Etch A Sketch, never mind plan a long term retail stategy for the area.
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I have said that many times, well not the etch a sketch bit.

I will tell you a story when I see you next about a Councillor - remind me
 
Neil said:
I have said that many times, well not the etch a sketch bit.

I will tell you a story when I see you next about a Councillor - remind me
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Oh goodie.

It's not like you to spill the political beans...well not many.:D
 
katex said:
Seemingly, the council did ask Next if they were interested in our town Lilly, but they turned us down (for the time being), probably holding out to see if anything moves on the proposed retail park at Whitebirk.... only my assumptions here though.

Don't think us Next/River Island/Oasis/Warehouse/Jane Norman buyers are in the minority at all. Now acquiring a large immigrant population, and they love these high street stores. Once they are there .. people will buy. Unfortunately, the Council members are not sales people, and do not know how to put forward a decent proposal.
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Exactly and the point can be carried on to so many other things. Public sector should be run as a business, with sales, marketing and all that mullarkey. The sooner local government start doing that, and looking to make money the better
 
Royboy39 said:
I forgot....I'm on his No No list :dancedog:

Rindy for council ?????
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Have to admit, I would actually probably vote for Rindy, even if I disagree with his opinion, I can at least understand where its coming from.

Besides, he doesnt waffle which i feel is a real pre-requisite for my all important vote lol
 
onlyme said:
Have to admit, I would actually probably vote for Rindy, even if I disagree with his opinion, I can at least understand where its coming from.

Besides, he doesnt waffle which i feel is a real pre-requisite for my all important vote lol
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I feel like I've waffled for days, it's about time I started being silly again.:rolleyes:
 
garinda said:
I feel like I've waffled for days, it's about time I started being silly again.:rolleyes:
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What do you mean feel Rindi you have and you know it, and I agree start being silly then that will be two of use, I'm lonely on my own:D:D:D:eek:
 
jaysay said:
What do you mean feel Rindi you have and you know it, and I agree start being silly then that will be two of use, I'm lonely on my own:D:D:D:eek:
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Lol, ok I'll start being silly.:p

I love Cameron's new brand of caring, sharing Conservatism, or Tory-Lite as the new brand is apparently called.:D
 
jaysay said:
What do you mean feel Rindi you have and you know it, and I agree start being silly then that will be two of use, I'm lonely on my own:D:D:D:eek:
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By the way, I couldn't have waffled without the help of my two non-stick waffle makers.;)
 
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