National Database

Can't understand why anybody would not want their medical details on a database, they are only going to be accessed if someone wants to save you!

And about the first post, what the heck has it got to do with anyone if my parents have paid tax or NI? Or even if I was in receipt of vouchers for free clothes?(whatever they are, clothes that is, not vouchers, I'm a naturist as you all know).
Isn't everyones individual situation down to themselves?
 
MargaretR said:
In such an emergency I would hope that they wouldn't waste time typing on a keyboard to access a system which might be 'down' - what then? wait for reconnection?:rolleyes:

Persons in your situation carry a bracelet with important health info, don't they?

PS as for a chemist needing to know - if you haven't found out the properties of any drug before you take it- you are gambling with your life
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Yes i do have a SOS talisman round my neck .. but no ambulance man/woman have ever opened it .. and how many people have one but dont keep it up to date with medication details .. That typing in a keyboard could save your life ...
 
Roy said:
Can't understand why anybody would not want their medical details on a database, they are only going to be accessed if someone wants to save you!
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How can you be sure of that? - we are aware that databases are misused by snoopy employees regularly.

If your next door neighbour's teenage daughter starts work at Boots, would you prefer her to know, or not to know, some medical facts - eg whether you have one or two testicles or have had both removed, or whether you have had a spell of depression.
 
MargaretR said:
How can you be sure of that? - we are aware that databases are misused by snoopy employees regularly.

If your next door neighbour's teenage daughter starts work at Boots, would you prefer her to know, or not to know, some medical facts - eg whether you have one or two testicles or have had both removed, or whether you have had a spell of depression.
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Because she will have to sign a confidentiality agreement ... and if she breaks it then she will be sacked ...
 
If your next door neighbour's teenage daughter starts work at Boots, would you prefer her to know, or not to know, some medical facts - eg if you have one or two testicles, or whether you have had a spell of depression.
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If I was medically considered as 'paranoid' then maybe I would be worried. But I'm not, so I'm not! I don't care who knows what's wrong with me, I even tell the truth to my life insurance company. As far as I'm concerned the medical people can record my entire life, if that will help to cure me from something in the future.
 
shillelagh said:
Because she will have to sign a confidentiality agreement ... and if she breaks it then she will be sacked ...
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If you were a transvestite trying to make a new life with a new gender you really don't want to have to meet your neighbour in the street and have them give you that look which says 'I know'.

Confidentiality breaches happen more often than are reported and disciplined,
and with so many people being in a position to know, who do you discipline?
 
PS -that link I gave gives FIVE pages of detail about WHO gets access - please read all before deciding - you have a right to privacy (for now):rolleyes:
 
MargaretR said:
If you were a transvestite trying to make a new life with a new gender you really don't want to have to meet your neighbour in the street and have them give you that look which says 'I know'.

Confidentiality breaches happen more often than are reported and disciplined,
and with so many people being in a position to know, who do you discipline?
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Sure you meant transexual Margaret, which would soon be obvious to all and sundry if a new gender were obtained.:D

Most people with medical conditions always tell friends, relations, etc., no matter how intimate, and eventually spreads out to the whole of a neighbourhood ... so our own worst enemy really. Look at your goodself, we already know a great deal of the health of your body.

Go in any doctor's surgery, they meet someone they know, and within a few minutes are telling each other why they are there. People love to talk about their illnesses. The records are there already, on the grapevine.
 
MargaretR said:
If you were a transvestite trying to make a new life with a new gender you really don't want to have to meet your neighbour in the street and have them give you that look which says 'I know'.
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They might well illicit strange looks from their neighbours, as transvestites have no desire to change gender. That's transexuals, who sometimes take that option.

My, my, Ms. Research is getting sloppy.

First accusing me of turning a blind eye to corruption, and now this.

:D

If I pulled unconscious from the wreckage of my car, I'll be more than happy for whichever medic attends to my injuries, has ease of access to my full medical history.
 
Who do you discipline .. the one who told them ... and if they dont say who it was well then they have to take the consequences ...


If people dont report it then thats their look see ...
 
Gary - Some transvestites assume their new gender before surgery don't they?
I preferred to ask you rather than google, since I expect that, in view of your past history of meeting infamous people, you would know ;)
 
Thats true katex .... look at me .... ive never met some of the people on here but they know i have epilepsy .. i dont care who knows i have it .. that way if i do have a fit then they know whats happening ... especially as i can drop anywhere ..
 
As my closing comment in this thread

Geese!! I thought I was doing you a favour telling you that you can opt out if you wish, so that those who want to do can do
 
MargaretR said:
Gary - Some transvestites assume their new gender before surgery don't they?
I preferred to ask you rather than google, since I expect that, in view of your past history of meeting infamous people, you would know ;)
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Lol, not an expert, but have met one or two on my travels.

Transvestites are usually heterosexual, mostly male, but not always, who enjoy dressing in the clothing of the opposite gender. It's a form of fetish, and is usually kept clandestine.

Transexuals feel as though they have the mind of the opposite gender, and were born into the wrong body. Some, though not all, live as the gender they feel they really are, and a smaller minority have some kind of surgery, to make their lives more acceptable for society to accept them.
 
MargaretR said:
Gary - Some transvestites assume their new gender before surgery don't they?
I preferred to ask you rather than google, since I expect that, in view of your past history of meeting infamous people, you would know ;)
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By the way, I've never met any famous transvestites, or transexuals.;)

Paul O'Grady used to come to our parties, at the house I shared when I first lived in London, but he was neither. He was a drag queen, or was, which is something completely different. Something that's just done for money.;)
 
Tidying this little thread wander neatly together...

interestingly J. Edgar Hoover, head of the F.B.I., was a sceret transvestite.

The data only being made public after his death, by the publication of his diaries and his own F.B.I. files.

It's unknown if the receptionist at his doctors passed on any of this information to her friends and neighbours, if it'd been noted by his doctor on his medical records.

:D
 
MargaretR said:
So how will you know who accessed it:confused:
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As someone who at work does use a computer and when i access a members name its logged who it is thats opened that members record and if i change something it shows as well ... and thats a lowly sports centre .. so surely the NHS will have a better software which will show who has looked at the records ..
 
I do have concerns about all these databases, and the information that they contain.
Huge organisations can be very sloppy about their security at times, as we have seen when supposedly trustworthy folk, have taken flash drives with sensitive information on them and then left them somewhere that they should not have been.
I also have concerns about who accesses this sensitive information.......I have known folk in the NHS access information that they were not entitled to access, out of pure noseyness.
I also have concerns about what happens when systems are down...what are the back-up arrangements for getting hold of information?
 
The thing is, all these databases and not one of them is linked to another.

Relational databases were no designed for government agencies.

Now if they managed to link them all together then POW! you have a rally informative database.
No need to keep telling the inland revenue your annual salary when claiming a benefit - they will already know, no need to sign a prescription saying your on benefits - the pharmacist will already know.
etc..
 
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