Negativity

cashman said:
Am i missing summat here F.C.? To me the rot, fer whatever reason started whilst Coley was here, Barnet fer instance.:confused: Since then we lost Management Duo,Key Players fer various reasons, With arguably the smallest squad in the league, We beat the gills,think that was Leams game? but could easy have lost it in second half,:confused:
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It's not about "the rot", Cashy; it's about what the manager says. Nor is it about the injuries. It's about talking things up. If I am an employee, I want to hear my boss(es) being positive. If I am a football supporter, I want to hear my manager being upbeat about my team. Certainly I don't want to hear him, within a few days of being appointed, talking about having to move backwards before being able to move on. It may be true - I just don't want to hear him say that. If I were a lukewarm supporter, that sort of language would not persuade me to go to a game. I've drawn this comparison before, but look at what Martin O'Neill has done at Sunderland. Listen to the way he talks about his team and contrast that with the way Steve Bruce used to talk about the same squad.
 
AccyMad said:
Anyone with any worries etc about anything Cooky and/or Leam are doing will be able to ask them personally on Thursday night at the Q & A session in the clubhouse - could make for an interesting evening
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Not "anyone". Only those within a reasonable distance of Accrington. The rest of us who do not have that privilege must be content with expressing our thoughts on here.
 
I won't be going myself but perhaps someone who is would like to collate a few questions from our geographically challenged supporters?
 
Revived Red said:
Not "anyone". Only those within a reasonable distance of Accrington. The rest of us who do not have that privilege must be content with expressing our thoughts on here.
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Questions can be submitted in advance by anyone, anywhere. That's the point of asking for them :)

At the moment, only one person has sent any but there's still plenty of time.
 
Bottom line is, Some people live in the real world, some live in dreamland, meself i prefer things straight, Point is whatever a manager says- Yeh won't suit everyone.:rolleyes:
 
Revived Red said:
A vital part of a manager's job is, in current jargon, to talk the talk which is to inspire belief. We all know how difficult it is to persuade the people of Accrington to support their local club, but if the words of the manager are less than inspirational, that only makes the problem worse.

A few weeks ago, macca, you wrote this: Cook wants to be positive about what we CAN do rather than us feeling sorry for ourselves about what we can't do. We can't go out and big wages for marquee signings but we can bring talent through etc

The fans are massive particularly for a club like us and we have to bring the feelgood factor back.

I do agree that, as things currently stand, we could not possibly cope with promotion. But an appearance in a play-off final at Wembley would be fantastic. I'm not convinced that the manager's words, right from the start, have helped to bring the "feelgood factor". Yes, he may be being realistic; but that will not bring the crowds to the Crown.
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Nor did Coleys 12/13 year reign bring the crowds to the Crown ;)
 
baldy said:
Nor did Coleys 12/13 year reign bring the crowds to the Crown ;)
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Announced on 10 May 2010:

ACCRINGTON Stanley’s average gate rose by an impressive 40 per cent this season – finally moving them off the bottom of the Football League’s attendance list.

Surely you are not suggesting that attendances in 2011 were the same as in 2000?
 
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It's still early days in Cookies tenure and he had big shoes to fill, it has been difficult in one sense watching play off hopes fade away but I am also a realist and realise there was going to be a bedding in process not just for the management but also the players which is still ongoing and probably will be with injuries & suspensions alike but it gives the management team the chance to look at what they have perhaps identify targets for next season?

The acid test will be over the summer in terms of what players he can keep and bring in this is where it will be tough but hopefully the Board will back him as much as possible.

Thursday is a good chance to ask questions of where Cookie thinks we are and his plans for developing the squad my only concern this season has been the amount of loanees in and out it must be difficult to produce a balanced side with that happening.
 
Well gentlemen this thread has caused a stir! For what its worth, my opinion is that the managers job is partly about managing expectations. The fans, the media, the directors and probably most important the players. We all know mind games are used in football stick with the man. I for one am going to give him a good chance to achieve success. It will be a long and winding road, hopefully with some success along the way. But the club has to develope on and off the field. Don't raise the bar too high or you will always fail, maybe he is taking pressure off the players and hopes to get the best out of them in that way. Can't wait for tonight. Not much chance on paper, but who plays on paper. Up the Stanley..................
 
My opinion is polar opposite from the opening post; from what I've seen Paul Cook seems to bring a great positivity to the club. His tactics have been ambitious, interviews constructive and attitude a breath of fresh air.

I have put absolutely no importance on Cook's lack of mention of the play offs. I think Crown Grounder sums it up with the phrase 'managing expectations'. After losing big players at the start of his reign, much of his role has been to steady the ship. His focus has had to be elsewhere. The fact that he has approached this with such open football oozes positivity, in my opinion anyway.

Funny old game!
 
If we are just focusing on pre/post match interviews, I'm in the same boat as ATC and Cashy (imagine that, it'd probably end up ran aground).

What you see as positivity, I see as hot air. What I see as realism, you see as negativity. It's down to the individual person and how they take it. There's no right or wrong here. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

I've ran out of cleches now. Oh wait, keep the faith. :)
 
Has anyone else noticed that when the BBC football website previews our games the "Views from the dressing room" are ALWAYS manager views from our opponent's dressing room, not ours. I know our dressing rooms are crap but still.........!
 
I am sure all managers know the need to put themselves across positively. To quote 1 Corinthians 14:8 "For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?"
 
Job chapter 5 verse 7 - a man is borne unto trouble as surely as sparks fly up from the fire







It was my "Get out of Jail Free" card every time the local vicar caught me nicking his wine :hehetable
 
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