The other worrying thing was in Ilyas's interview last night where he said the board agreed Coleys contract offer weeks ago but still nothing on paper?
New Contracts?
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That's a very tough question from the outside looking in, I would think we have the basis of the spine of a decent team with some flesh on it, just one or two areas that need a bit of fleshing out:
A Number one has to be a pririty
A Natural Left Back-moving Winnard to Right Back
A left sided midfielder
Another centre Back
At least another centre forward but that hinges on if the two main lads stay if not we may need more.
The Bench at times has looked strong but at times has also looked weak for whatever reason Coley has not used the options much from the bench.
I would think size a similar in number squad as this season but maybe with a little more experience, mixed with the ones staying who have played another season in the League, a couple of loan signings and we won't be far off next season.
Would also be nice to be hinder free from the embargo to give us choices come January or when the loan window is open just to add sensibly.
It will be good and no doubt be dabatable for us all who comes & who goes in the Summer
A Number one has to be a pririty
A Natural Left Back-moving Winnard to Right Back
A left sided midfielder
Another centre Back
At least another centre forward but that hinges on if the two main lads stay if not we may need more.
The Bench at times has looked strong but at times has also looked weak for whatever reason Coley has not used the options much from the bench.
I would think size a similar in number squad as this season but maybe with a little more experience, mixed with the ones staying who have played another season in the League, a couple of loan signings and we won't be far off next season.
Would also be nice to be hinder free from the embargo to give us choices come January or when the loan window is open just to add sensibly.
It will be good and no doubt be dabatable for us all who comes & who goes in the Summer
Heres my keep list and wish list:
Keep
Bavs - good as no2 keeper
Edwards, Kempson, Winnard - rotate these 3 in central defence
Ryan, Miles, Joyce - rotate these in central midfield
Turner - wing
Symes, Grant - if they want to stay
Need
No 1 keeper
Left back
Right back
2 wingers
Back up striker - Kee if available
2 'utility' midfielders - possibly proctor as one (but not as skipper)
2 'utility' defenders - possibly leam if can prove fitness
Keep
Bavs - good as no2 keeper
Edwards, Kempson, Winnard - rotate these 3 in central defence
Ryan, Miles, Joyce - rotate these in central midfield
Turner - wing
Symes, Grant - if they want to stay
Need
No 1 keeper
Left back
Right back
2 wingers
Back up striker - Kee if available
2 'utility' midfielders - possibly proctor as one (but not as skipper)
2 'utility' defenders - possibly leam if can prove fitness
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Football Manager 2010/11 time.
Let's presume all current loanees are gonners and that we can keep hold of key players. Release Dunbavin, Richardson, Mullin, Burton and King. Keep Edwards, Kempson, Winnard, Turner, Procter, Ryan, Joyce, Miles, McConville, Grant and Symes. Keep Murphy as cover for right back and Ami as cover for centre-half.
Goalie is the priority on the shopping list. We don't need to sign another for cover; promote yoofie Molloy to first team squad as back up and keep him fit in the ressies. We need a left-footed left-back and a striker.
That gives us a contracted squad of 17 with two goalies, six defenders, six midfielders and three strikers. Flesh it out with loanees; one defender, one tough tackling midfielder and a striker with a bit of strength.
Make Edwards captain.
Win the league with 111 points and a +60 goal difference
Let's presume all current loanees are gonners and that we can keep hold of key players. Release Dunbavin, Richardson, Mullin, Burton and King. Keep Edwards, Kempson, Winnard, Turner, Procter, Ryan, Joyce, Miles, McConville, Grant and Symes. Keep Murphy as cover for right back and Ami as cover for centre-half.
Goalie is the priority on the shopping list. We don't need to sign another for cover; promote yoofie Molloy to first team squad as back up and keep him fit in the ressies. We need a left-footed left-back and a striker.
That gives us a contracted squad of 17 with two goalies, six defenders, six midfielders and three strikers. Flesh it out with loanees; one defender, one tough tackling midfielder and a striker with a bit of strength.
Make Edwards captain.
Win the league with 111 points and a +60 goal difference
Football Manager 2010/11 time.
Let's presume all current loanees are gonners and that we can keep hold of key players. Release Dunbavin, Richardson, Mullin, Burton and King. Keep Edwards, Kempson, Winnard, Turner, Procter, Ryan, Joyce, Miles, McConville, Grant and Symes. Keep Murphy as cover for right back and Ami as cover for centre-half.
Goalie is the priority on the shopping list. We don't need to sign another for cover; promote yoofie Molloy to first team squad as back up and keep him fit in the ressies. We need a left-footed left-back and a striker.
That gives us a contracted squad of 17 with two goalies, six defenders, six midfielders and three strikers. Flesh it out with loanees; one defender, one tough tackling midfielder and a striker with a bit of strength.
Make Edwards captain.
Win the league with 111 points and a +60 goal difference
Sorry Murphy is not good enough at this level, not sure that Bee Ami is still with the Club as he dosn't appear on the squad list on the programme.
Alan Burton seemed a decent player the couple of times I saw him play for the reserves
What I've seen of Murphy has been pretty good. The choice as I see it is to either keep on one of our own young players or sign a new player only for cover, releasing the young player. The latter decision seems backwards to me. As far as I know, Ami is still on the club's books and out on loan at Radcliffe. If anyone knows different please correct me. As with Murphy, what I've seen of him has looked promising. Burton has been injured for a long time which unfortunately is the reason why I'd release him.
I want to keep Ami if only so that 107 radio station can sponsor him. Altogether now ... 107 The Bee!
Seriously though, when he played for us against Burnley in the SOS Cup I thought his reading of the play was superb for a young lad. There were a couple of basic mistakes but overall I was impressed. I was less impressed though when he played against us in the pre-season friendly.
Seriously though, when he played for us against Burnley in the SOS Cup I thought his reading of the play was superb for a young lad. There were a couple of basic mistakes but overall I was impressed. I was less impressed though when he played against us in the pre-season friendly.
Watched a lot of academy and prem reserve team football ie; 17 to 21 year olds and i was more than impressed with accis Alan burton , If he has a bit of luck,stays clear of injuries and is not thrown in at the deep end,he will become a top player
Joyce keen to stay on at Accrington Stanley (From Lancashire Telegraph)
This is good positive stuff players wanting too stay at Stanley, be nice to get players signed up before the end of May or even better before the end of the season
Stop Clubs coming in taking players from under our noses and if they do and are under contract at least money goes into the pot
This is good positive stuff players wanting too stay at Stanley, be nice to get players signed up before the end of May or even better before the end of the season
Stop Clubs coming in taking players from under our noses and if they do and are under contract at least money goes into the pot
A new Keeper is top priority, Dunbavin isn't good enough 
and young Bouzanis, whilst he's shown promise, Liverpool probably wouldn't release him and all the chopping and changing between the two shows that Coley doesn't know who is the better of the two.
However, I happen to think neither are good enough to be a first choice keeper; and this means a new goalkeeper is top priority.
Next on the list are two full backs. Players who are naturals at full back. We may have one who has missed the season with injury ( Richardson), but if we assume he can't make it back from injury the same player, these are the next two positions that have to be filled.
Before the pro Cavanagh brigade start shouting, we're talking about moving the club forwards. By bringing back Cav, which would cause unrest, I think we'd only be papering over the cracks. Whilst Cav was a good servant to the club in the past, despite what anyone thinks about his misdemenours; and forgive and forget and all that; what we need is new blood.
Hence two full backs are a must.
We have more than enough creative talent in midfield, even if at times they seem not fully motivated. Before the "Coley Out" brigade start, this end of season slump is doing certain players no favours, If in charge, I know whose arses I would be kicking now, they shall remain nameless, however one quality addition to centre midfield and a wide man ( on either flank) would spice up that department.
Up front, we need the main men (ala Grant & Symes ) to sign on the dotted line. I'd be praying for Leicester to get up in the play offs (that might mean Billy Kee is surplus to their requirements) but I stilll think we miss someone with Paul Mullin's muscle. If Coley can dig somebody out like that then all well and good....
I'll throw a couple of names into the mix..... the lad Tubbs (plays for Salisbury,has 30 odd goals for them this season, a.k.a. F.A. cup game) and Purcell from Darlington. ( he might want to stay playing league football??)
However, If the Bellylaugh ( L.E.T. ) is to believed the budget is pretty much the same for Coley next season. That means chopping and changing, but for me, he has to keep Chris Turner and Grant. Very Saleable assets, both with promise.
If Symes' agent has turned the guys head and promised him greener grass, It's pointless being held to ransom. Better to look elsewhere and learn the lesson. (i.e tie the replacement, if good enough, down to a proper contract)
and young Bouzanis, whilst he's shown promise, Liverpool probably wouldn't release him and all the chopping and changing between the two shows that Coley doesn't know who is the better of the two.However, I happen to think neither are good enough to be a first choice keeper; and this means a new goalkeeper is top priority.
Next on the list are two full backs. Players who are naturals at full back. We may have one who has missed the season with injury ( Richardson), but if we assume he can't make it back from injury the same player, these are the next two positions that have to be filled.
Before the pro Cavanagh brigade start shouting, we're talking about moving the club forwards. By bringing back Cav, which would cause unrest, I think we'd only be papering over the cracks. Whilst Cav was a good servant to the club in the past, despite what anyone thinks about his misdemenours; and forgive and forget and all that; what we need is new blood.
Hence two full backs are a must.
We have more than enough creative talent in midfield, even if at times they seem not fully motivated. Before the "Coley Out" brigade start, this end of season slump is doing certain players no favours, If in charge, I know whose arses I would be kicking now, they shall remain nameless, however one quality addition to centre midfield and a wide man ( on either flank) would spice up that department.
Up front, we need the main men (ala Grant & Symes ) to sign on the dotted line. I'd be praying for Leicester to get up in the play offs (that might mean Billy Kee is surplus to their requirements) but I stilll think we miss someone with Paul Mullin's muscle. If Coley can dig somebody out like that then all well and good....
I'll throw a couple of names into the mix..... the lad Tubbs (plays for Salisbury,has 30 odd goals for them this season, a.k.a. F.A. cup game) and Purcell from Darlington. ( he might want to stay playing league football??)
However, If the Bellylaugh ( L.E.T. ) is to believed the budget is pretty much the same for Coley next season. That means chopping and changing, but for me, he has to keep Chris Turner and Grant. Very Saleable assets, both with promise.
If Symes' agent has turned the guys head and promised him greener grass, It's pointless being held to ransom. Better to look elsewhere and learn the lesson. (i.e tie the replacement, if good enough, down to a proper contract)
Hopefully keep Turner, Winnard and Grant. All 3 will be big sellable assets in the future. Deano was wanted by Doncaster last Summer that says a lot for him.
Releasing too many would be a nightmare for Coley but guess it's the same story every year! Think Purcell is a brilliant call from the poster above, has looked very lively whenever I've seen him play.
Releasing too many would be a nightmare for Coley but guess it's the same story every year! Think Purcell is a brilliant call from the poster above, has looked very lively whenever I've seen him play.
Carpon;809879
A new Keeper is top priority, Dunbavin isn't good enoughand young Bouzanis, whilst he's shown promise, Liverpool probably wouldn't release him and all the chopping and changing between the two shows that Coley doesn't know who is the better of the two.
However, I happen to think neither are good enough to be a first choice keeper; and this means a new goalkeeper is top priority.
Agree in the main, but this is the most important thing for us next season!!
Good post Carpon.
A new Keeper is top priority, Dunbavin isn't good enough
and young Bouzanis, whilst he's shown promise, Liverpool probably wouldn't release him and all the chopping and changing between the two shows that Coley doesn't know who is the better of the two.However, I happen to think neither are good enough to be a first choice keeper; and this means a new goalkeeper is top priority.
Agree in the main, but this is the most important thing for us next season!!
Good post Carpon.
Good Post Carpon
Just two points that we need to take into account:
1) Will they appear on our scouting radar
2) If any of these players are under contract then we can forget it
It will be a Summer of wheeling & dealing, the biggest problem is going to be I would expect not uncovering just one nugget but possibly up to six and that is a big ask for anyone
We have a nucleus of probably twelve players add six to that and we are up to eighteen, throw in a couple of loan signings and we are up to twenty which is a reasonable size squad for us, so long as embargos are avoided it still leaves us options in the free transfer or loan market at stages of next season.
Just two points that we need to take into account:
1) Will they appear on our scouting radar
2) If any of these players are under contract then we can forget it
It will be a Summer of wheeling & dealing, the biggest problem is going to be I would expect not uncovering just one nugget but possibly up to six and that is a big ask for anyone
We have a nucleus of probably twelve players add six to that and we are up to eighteen, throw in a couple of loan signings and we are up to twenty which is a reasonable size squad for us, so long as embargos are avoided it still leaves us options in the free transfer or loan market at stages of next season.
A point that most people seem to be missing is that the playing staff is based on a set budget which is normally given to the manager before the pre season gets under way.
Someone may correct me but i am sure this was reduced by a third last year.
Hence do you pay over the odds on bringing in one player or spread the budget to bring in unproven players.
The average age of the team this year is approx 21 with 6 or 7 being 20 or under.On a limited budget you cant have it both ways and is reliant on the manager selling the club rather than paying money
Someone may correct me but i am sure this was reduced by a third last year.
Hence do you pay over the odds on bringing in one player or spread the budget to bring in unproven players.
The average age of the team this year is approx 21 with 6 or 7 being 20 or under.On a limited budget you cant have it both ways and is reliant on the manager selling the club rather than paying money
This is what sets Coley apart from other managers, and why it will be a huge mistake to demand his sacking.
a point is also, we don't really know what budget will be available to coley, last years was understandable if yer correct, yes it will be limited, but same as any club, to its own circumstances, coleman fer my money has worked wonders in the past wi peanuts, proving ya don't always get monkeys fer em. and to pendle red, both points are correct imho, but do'es anyone know to what extent our scouting radar is? fer my money, one of the most vital sections of any small club.
fer my money, one of the most vital sections of any small club.
http://www.accringtonobserver.co.uk.../1215496_new_deal_for_stanley_management_team
Bit in there saying playing budgets will be similar to this seasons
Bit in there saying playing budgets will be similar to this seasons
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