New Manager

I find the concept of Coley and Jimmy returning to the club strangely exciting and for all the reasons given on the other threads.

My only concern is that whilst at Rochdale they kept going back for the same old players that they'd had previously, which still puzzles me today. Whilst at Stanley they uncovered some real gems, so why didn't they do the same down the road? Added to that they let one of the best midfield players in L2 walk away from the club because of a 'clash of characters'.

If they are to stage a return, then it needs to happen very quickly.
 
if coley & bell want to return, then to those fans opposed to their re-appointments, i'd challenge anyone to name two better candidates. Who would work with our budget. And could succeed in driving the club forward???

At the time when leam was struggling to get results, i was opposed to your calls for the recall of coley & bell. I felt leam deserved a chance to prove his worth and he didn't disappoint !!;)

obviously chesterfield ( & more so cook ) have recognised leams talent and his achievement in keeping stanley in the league & working within diffucult conditions & prised him away.

I said it before, i can't blame leam for going for a better paid job with less responsibility. I do however, think cook is clever by getting leam as his assistant, as i feel it will be richardson's input into chesterfield that will gain more kudos for cook than it will leam. They say peter taylor was the leading light in the successful partnership between cloughie & taylor at derby & forest. I can only see it being similiar for leam whilst he plays second fiddle to cook.:(

hence why i, like others, find it baffling why he wants to be in cook's shadow rather than in the limelight here.:confused:

Anyway, we now face a different situation and as a result we now find ourselves managerless at a crucial stage where our players are all soon to be out of contract. Quite a few of the lads, deano, rommy, bavs, podge etc, all know coley & bell. And know how they operate. And that could be crucial when it comes to persuading these lads where to sign. We also don't have to pay compo for sacking anybody and have a vacant position ( or positions to fill )

and the longer we dither and stall on making a decision about our next manager, the more difficult the job becomes for the new bloke.:o

and to those who doubt the wisdom of re-appointing coley & bell. When they left for 'dale, we were looking like mounting another assault on the upper echelons of league two and another tilt at the play-offs.

Cook came in and, if there is one thing to be gratefull to cook for, he did sign some decent players. Leam stabilised the ship, signed a few more decent players and saw us safe.

We've therefore received four lots of compensation and could get the main men back for nothing (i.e paying compo to someone else ) to oversee a squad containing some cracking players (if they manage to keep the majority, or by some miracle, keep all of the key men on board)

round pegs, square holes. I can only see re-appointing coley & bell as a perfect solution to our problem.:o
no thanks
 
i find the concept of coley and jimmy returning to the club strangely exciting and for all the reasons given on the other threads.

My only concern is that whilst at rochdale they kept going back for the same old players that they'd had previously, which still puzzles me today. Whilst at stanley they uncovered some real gems, so why didn't they do the same down the road? Added to that they let one of the best midfield players in l2 walk away from the club because of a 'clash of characters'.

If they are to stage a return, then it needs to happen very quickly.
no thanks
 
I'd like to see Coley and Bell back. They know the club and fans inside out and understand Stanley. As much as I think Beattie would do a good job we probably need someone with a bit more experience.

Whoever gets the job it really needs to be done ASAP. We need to work on getting players to sign contracts and getting new players in the door. We can't do that with no manager.
 
It's never safe to be nostalgic about something until you're absolutely certain there's no chance of its coming back. ~Bill Vaughn
 
i'd like to see coley and bell back. They know the club and fans inside out and understand stanley. As much as i think beattie would do a good job we probably need someone with a bit more experience.

Whoever gets the job it really needs to be done asap. We need to work on getting players to sign contracts and getting new players in the door. We can't do that with no manager.
no thanks james beattie
 
Definition of nepotism
noun
The practice among those with power or influence of favouring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs:


Was this word invented to describe the recruitment and team selection policy of Messrs Coleman & Bell?:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
QUOTE; I find the concept of Coley and Jimmy returning to the club strangely exciting and for all the reasons given on the other threads.

My only concern is that whilst at Rochdale they kept going back for the same old players that they'd had previously, which still puzzles me today. Whilst at Stanley they uncovered some real gems, so why didn't they do the same down the road? Added to that they let one of the best midfield players in L2 walk away from the club because of a 'clash of characters'.

here here Tin Monkey

IMHO we should be looking elswhere but if they come back so be it, plus if we end up in the same predicament at the end of next season under their charge it would be interesting to see which hymn sheet DAV007 sings from !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
 
Definition of nepotism
noun
The practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs:


Was this word invented to describe the recruitment and team selection policy of Messrs Coleman & Bell?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

What a pointless and pathetic jibe.Coley knows the Merseyside area...knows who the best Liverpool/Everton drop outs are. Why not utilize those contacts?

I personally couldn't give a rats arse where the players come from as long as we're successful. I cant for the life of me understand this Coley hatred.

Ironic that if not for the teams Coley built....many of those spitting venom towards him wouldn't know where the Crown Ground was.

As for the brilliant "no thanks" comments. Ladies and Gentlemen I give you Accyweb Debater Of The Year 2013!!!

If we drop out of the league we will NEVER come back. Indeed we would probably sink further down the pyramid.

Yet people would rather gamble on any Tom, Dick and Harry than appoint a man with a proven track record of not just keeping the club in the league but pushing onward.

Anybody who remembers the years BC (Before Coleman) would have to be raving mad to disregard Coley.
 
For me you can't look past coleman an bell, no one comes close to what they have done for this club! People do have very short memories, how people say there sad to see leam go is beyond me, he left the club 3 points above the drop an without a few last minute goals we would be relegated comfortably! John an jimmy perfomed miracles over the 13 years they gave us an are both stil young (ish) an can push us on again! Look at the players we sold an got money for from our play off season! Ryan (150.000) mcconville (80.000) gornell (15.000) cisak (15.000) that's a lot of money! I think john an jimmy will bring the exact same brand of football back that we seen that season an some of the best most attractive football av seen. We need to employ the immediately so they can build a similar squad to play attractive watchable football! An not just be happy with surviving in league 2! Cook an richardson have done nothing to make the club any better since john an jimmy left an that's a fact! I for one will be right behind them if they come back!! An whom ever they sign..
 
Referring to Coley's body language at the end of his previous tenure is a Red Herring.
Then he was musing on finding a stepping stone up after 13 years lets not forget extraordinary service in one place. OUR place.
Now he's fifteen months older and probably a few years wiser. Judging by his reaction at the whistle on Saturday last,when after an effectively dead rubber he rushed to the touchline to speak to Peter Murphy, he's lost none of his passion for this club. After his (mis)adventures at Spotland, it may be that Stanley offers him the real canvas or which to create his masterpieces. Like Gaudi, sorry Gradi at Crewe.

Fighting against the odds (and regularly triumphing) must have its attractions.

I'd be utterly delighted to welcome him and Jimmy back. Though based on what others have said, James Beattie seems to have demonstrated humongous commitment to the club over recent weeks. Certainly feel I missed out on his speech on Sunday, judging from comments.

Either way pretty sad Leam has gone. The boy did good. Nothing surprises me in football management anymore.................
 
I think the players he brought into the club more than atone for this. Still don't let facts get in the way of your agenda.
What on earth are you on about? I don't have any agenda. I was merely quoting the names of two other good players that we lost because of "clash of character". Fact.
 
At the end of the day the jury will be split on the return of J&J and to coin a phrase I don,t give a rats arse who is the next manager as long as they do the best for my club, we can throw this about all day long and try to second guess the outcome but the board will decide on the best canidate so there aint no point falling out about it.
My only concern regarding the dynamic duo is if they were to be appointed and it all went wrong which would,nt be good for the club J&J or the fans would the 12 years of success count for nothing as we all know football is a very fickle business to be in.
 
The 12 years of those 2 will always be remembered by me,thats certain. n i'm one that wants new blood.;)
 
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