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i think life is supposed to come before money sums it up really.

True but that does not mean we should just keep throwing money into a bottomless pit just because it saves lives. Lives can be saved more efficiently.
 
True but that does not mean we should just keep throwing money into a bottomless pit just because it saves lives. Lives can be saved more efficiently.
whilst i agree wi that, this lot seem to be making the ordinary people suffer wi there methods, "Re" knee replacements n the like, still nowt new yon.:rolleyes:
 
whilst i agree wi that, this lot seem to be making the ordinary people suffer wi there methods, "Re" knee replacements n the like, still nowt new yon.:rolleyes:


i'd go without a knee replacement tbh. my uncle went in for a routine knee op - the idiots got cement in his blood stream and killed him instantly.

my friends granma also just passed after a 'routine' op on her hip, the changed her from being fine to disabled and she died shortly after.

you couldnt pay me to go into a hospital nowadays.
 
i'd go without a knee replacement tbh. my uncle went in for a routine knee op - the idiots got cement in his blood stream and killed him instantly.

my friends granma also just passed after a 'routine' op on her hip, the changed her from being fine to disabled and she died shortly after.

you couldnt pay me to go into a hospital nowadays.
sorry about yer uncle, but entirely your choice, i won't loose any sleep oer it.
 
i'd go without a knee replacement tbh. my uncle went in for a routine knee op - the idiots got cement in his blood stream and killed him instantly.

my friends granma also just passed after a 'routine' op on her hip, the changed her from being fine to disabled and she died shortly after.

you couldnt pay me to go into a hospital nowadays.
I agree with you on that, hospitals either killed you or cure you, and these days they will also give you another illness as well.
Retlaw
 
I agree with you on that, hospitals either killed you or cure you, and these days they will also give you another illness as well.
Retlaw

Yes, how true, tragic even, what's the chances of it improving with the 'we're in it together alliance', somehow I feel some of us are altogether up to our necks and others seem able to walk on the surface of this crap, but then I and other pleb's like me probably deserve it.
 
Why (and this is the case with all the parties) do they keep changing things ? Nobody understands the latest proposals and it just creates uncertainty and always costs billions, 12 billion on a computer system that doesn't work !
 
Have you any evidence to support that statement????
He is a politician......truth? Politician?.......isn't that an oxymoron?
The only changes to the NHS that is urgently needed is to cut out the waste, its long been known that only about 70p in every pound is used for the better of the services, there's a lot of red tape and bureaucracy needs sorting out, the first step forward would be to put people in charge with a medical background not people who have previously made a living selling baked beans to supermarkets
 
The way that the NHS operates gives some credence to the conspiracy theory that
......there is a population cull well under way;)
 
John, there are too many managers on big salaries......these should be whittled down to the minimum. That alone would save vast sums of money.
The NHS should stop dancing to the tunes played by the politicians...get rid of the league tables, they mean nothing in real terms and patients whose clinical condition does not require urgent treatment get it, so that some manager can satisfy government targets.
Make sure that suppliers are giving value for money and if they aren't then the contract for services should be removed.
Put more staff on the front line...where patient contact is the prime concern.
Rocket science?...it isn't.
 
Why (and this is the case with all the parties) do they keep changing things ? Nobody understands the latest proposals and it just creates uncertainty and always costs billions, 12 billion on a computer system that doesn't work !


so true if they left things as they were 10 years ago there were a lot less problems than there are now!!
 
John, there are too many managers on big salaries......these should be whittled down to the minimum. That alone would save vast sums of money.
The NHS should stop dancing to the tunes played by the politicians...get rid of the league tables, they mean nothing in real terms and patients whose clinical condition does not require urgent treatment get it, so that some manager can satisfy government targets.
Make sure that suppliers are giving value for money and if they aren't then the contract for services should be removed.
Put more staff on the front line...where patient contact is the prime concern.
Rocket science?...it isn't.
Absolutely spot on Margaret, and you've seen things first hand, there's a raft of management that could be dispensed with, without any problem, but there are to many people with their fingers in the pie.
 
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