You can't talk about any other group even if they are legally invading our country and taking all the jobs for less money and so on and so on.......
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I've always thought it's pretty clear that supporters of the BNP are no different from supporters of the Nazi party.
Still, that's only my opinion and I would never want to stop people having their opinion. Even if it is a facist one.
Ignorance breeds hate Bagpuss.
I've always thought it's pretty clear that supporters of the BNP are no different from supporters of the Nazi party.
Still, that's only my opinion and I would never want to stop people having their opinion. Even if it is a facist one.
Ignorance breeds hate Bagpuss.
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My workplace earlier this year made 50 local people redundant stating loss of business, after they left the jobs reappeared and where filled by Polish workers doing the jobs for less money an hour. Ok you might say at least the new workers will be helping the local economy, wrong, these workers are bused in from Halifax every morning and don't spend a penny in local shops.
This is happening up and down the country nearly every delivery wagon that we get has an eastern european driver, has anyone had trouble getting a council house lately, try it and see what I mean. Local school St Annes can't cope because of the amount of Poles trying to get places in the school, if you want one for your local kids forget it.
Try registering for work at a local jobs agency if you're English you have no chance. My friend tested this out by trying to enrol at one, his first phone call he said he was called Taylor and lived in Accrington, he was told the books where full. Next day he rang again using a different voice and used the name Patel, he was again told the books where full but try again next week. His third call he used Saganowski and to his surprise he was told two local firms where recruiting and could he come and have an interview. I didn't believe this story until I listened to his recorded phone calls, this to me was enough evidence as to why we should close the borders to the eastern europeans now, so Shaker please do not tell me Im ignorant on this subject as I have heard and seen plenty of evidence.
It's not ignorance as I've said before in other threads I am just using my own observations to come to my conclusion. To anyone who thinks that its good for the influx of eastern europeans currently arriving in our country needs to open their eyes.
My workplace earlier this year made 50 local people redundant stating loss of business, after they left the jobs reappeared and where filled by Polish workers doing the jobs for less money an hour. Ok you might say at least the new workers will be helping the local economy, wrong, these workers are bused in from Halifax every morning and don't spend a penny in local shops.
This is happening up and down the country nearly every delivery wagon that we get has an eastern european driver, has anyone had trouble getting a council house lately, try it and see what I mean. Local school St Annes can't cope because of the amount of Poles trying to get places in the school, if you want one for your local kids forget it.
Try registering for work at a local jobs agency if you're English you have no chance. My friend tested this out by trying to enrol at one, his first phone call he said he was called Taylor and lived in Accrington, he was told the books where full. Next day he rang again using a different voice and used the name Patel, he was again told the books where full but try again next week. His third call he used Saganowski and to his surprise he was told two local firms where recruiting and could he come and have an interview. I didn't believe this story until I listened to his recorded phone calls, this to me was enough evidence as to why we should close the borders to the eastern europeans now, so Shaker please do not tell me Im ignorant on this subject as I have heard and seen plenty of evidence.
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The 'evidence' is particularly biased though dont you think?
If more English workers weren't lazy arses & slogged their guts out for their cash like the Poles do, then there wouldn't be any need to bring them all in would there?
Businesses will also want the Poles as they have no belonging to the compo culture that the English are massive fans of these days.
Businesses have done similar things for decades to make the most profit out of what they have, it isn't a new thing.
It's not ignorance as I've said before in other threads I am just using my own observations to come to my conclusion. To anyone who thinks that its good for the influx of eastern europeans currently arriving in our country needs to open their eyes.
My workplace earlier this year made 50 local people redundant stating loss of business, after they left the jobs reappeared and where filled by Polish workers doing the jobs for less money an hour. Ok you might say at least the new workers will be helping the local economy, wrong, these workers are bused in from Halifax every morning and don't spend a penny in local shops.
This is happening up and down the country nearly every delivery wagon that we get has an eastern european driver, has anyone had trouble getting a council house lately, try it and see what I mean. Local school St Annes can't cope because of the amount of Poles trying to get places in the school, if you want one for your local kids forget it.
Try registering for work at a local jobs agency if you're English you have no chance. My friend tested this out by trying to enrol at one, his first phone call he said he was called Taylor and lived in Accrington, he was told the books where full. Next day he rang again using a different voice and used the name Patel, he was again told the books where full but try again next week. His third call he used Saganowski and to his surprise he was told two local firms where recruiting and could he come and have an interview. I didn't believe this story until I listened to his recorded phone calls, this to me was enough evidence as to why we should close the borders to the eastern europeans now, so Shaker please do not tell me Im ignorant on this subject as I have heard and seen plenty of evidence.
The 'evidence' is particularly biased though dont you think?
If more English workers weren't lazy arses & slogged their guts out for their cash like the Poles do, then there wouldn't be any need to bring them all in would there?
Businesses will also want the Poles as they have no belonging to the compo culture that the English are massive fans of these days.
Businesses have done similar things for decades to make the most profit out of what they have, it isn't a new thing.
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You arsehole to be blunt, I lost some good mates who where damn good workers not lazy arses as you say. They lost their jobs because of one reason the Poles where doing the job for less than the minimal wage, never did the management say if people would take a pay cut they could keep their jobs, come on open your eyes.
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not with you at all on this shaker,my late wifes nephew did not get his usual(winter job) back cos of this problem, sure theres lazy gits, but there is everywhere, n a lot of hard working people are struggling to get employment nowadays, also the "free speech" is a grey area, do you think its ok for these radicals to preach their hatred of infidels n such like,cos i certainly do not.
not with you at all on this shaker,my late wifes nephew did not get his usual(winter job) back cos of this problem, sure theres lazy gits, but there is everywhere, n a lot of hard working people are struggling to get employment nowadays, also the "free speech" is a grey area, do you think its ok for these radicals to preach their hatred of infidels n such like,cos i certainly do not.
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I apologize for the lazy arses statement. It was out of order.
But I stand by my point about the compo culture.
It's not right that hard working people lose jobs because the Poles will work for less money, but what would you do in the business' position? You have to get the most work out of your staff for the least amount of expenditure.
On the grand scheme of things the companys have to do what's right for business.
I apologize for the lazy arses statement. It was out of order.
But I stand by my point about the compo culture.
It's not right that hard working people lose jobs because the Poles will work for less money, but what would you do in the business' position? You have to get the most work out of your staff for the least amount of expenditure.
On the grand scheme of things the companys have to do what's right for business.
Re: Question for the Mods
Surely people can use common sense to judge between having views on things and radicalising people though Cashy?
Surely people can use common sense to judge between having views on things and radicalising people though Cashy?
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True, but if the country was still run by the unions, the Poles, or anyone else wouldn't want to come and work here anyway.
True, but if the country was still run by the unions, the Poles, or anyone else wouldn't want to come and work here anyway.
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Is there not a law stating 100 days between redundancies and re-employment?
Is there not a law stating 100 days between redundancies and re-employment?
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thats why i say its a grey area, you cant really say i believe in free speech anymore, even though you do. commonsense and the powers that be do not sit well together in my view.
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and that would be a shame.True, but if the country was still run by the unions, the Poles, or anyone else wouldn't want to come and work here anyway.
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There was a situation down in East Anglia where people who could not speak Polish were not being considered for jobs because the person in charge was Polish and the other workers are Polish so applicants were told if they couldn't speak Polish they wouldn't understand instructions. It's understandable that things like that cause resentment amongst locals.
There was a situation down in East Anglia where people who could not speak Polish were not being considered for jobs because the person in charge was Polish and the other workers are Polish so applicants were told if they couldn't speak Polish they wouldn't understand instructions. It's understandable that things like that cause resentment amongst locals.
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This is the punchline the site that we lost the original jobs to also made employees redundant because of lost business and yes you've guessed it was the new business that we have now got. So work has been swapped around the company and over 100 UK workers have been replaced by Poles now working for less cash.
Still think its good business Shaker?
I get the feeling you doubt what I am saying, from what evidence we have been able to gather is that we lost work to another site in the company hense jobs lost. 2 weeks later hey presto new orders hense the need for new workers, old jobs gone new positions with different titles but really the same jobs as the old ones, do you follow me?
This is the punchline the site that we lost the original jobs to also made employees redundant because of lost business and yes you've guessed it was the new business that we have now got. So work has been swapped around the company and over 100 UK workers have been replaced by Poles now working for less cash.
Still think its good business Shaker?
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I'n not doubting you old Puss, I just honestly want to know how employers are getting away with it.
Surely if they are acting illegally, they could/should be prosecuted?
I get the feeling you doubt what I am saying, from what evidence we have been able to gather is that we lost work to another site in the company hense jobs lost. 2 weeks later hey presto new orders hense the need for new workers, old jobs gone new positions with different titles but really the same jobs as the old ones, do you follow me?
This is the punchline the site that we lost the original jobs to also made employees redundant because of lost business and yes you've guessed it was the new business that we have now got. So work has been swapped around the company and over 100 UK workers have been replaced by Poles now working for less cash.
Still think its good business Shaker?
I'n not doubting you old Puss, I just honestly want to know how employers are getting away with it.
Surely if they are acting illegally, they could/should be prosecuted?
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They should be prosecuted but the Polish workers are probably happy with the low wages and don't even consider that they are part of a raw deal.
They should be prosecuted but the Polish workers are probably happy with the low wages and don't even consider that they are part of a raw deal.
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Financially speaking, yes. The business' aim is to make as much profit as possible. Of course making a lot of profit doesn't justify treating people wrongly but businesses will always bend rules & regs to make more money.
Financially speaking, yes. The business' aim is to make as much profit as possible. Of course making a lot of profit doesn't justify treating people wrongly but businesses will always bend rules & regs to make more money.
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Employers get away with allsorts because employees know they can be replaced cheaply with eastern europeans if the kick up a fuss. Even though we know what is happening I don't think it would be enough to prosecute. Someone asked the question of why they where on less money only to be told it's the new training rate, but no answer except it's none of your business came when asked how long they stay on it.