Our Defence

JEFF

JEFF

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Tackler
.....or lack of it.

Once again we have been let down by our defence. Only Darlington have conceded more goals than us this season and we have conceded the most goals at home. Unfortunately, once again I have to say - 'If we had a defence we would be dangerous'
 
But who would you replace ? individually they are great. Is it a case of bringing in a new defensive coach ? Do we have a defensive coach ?

It seems to me as though we play great all game apart from odd 5 mins here and there when one of the defenders decides to go and make a brew or wonder off in search of daisies, thus leaving us exposed at the back.

I couldnt believe we was 2-0 up yesterday when infact if it wasnt for Boozer we would of been 4-2 down.
 
Agreed for once with Jeff.

In my humble opinion it all starts with the man between the sticks at the back, and unfortunately at the moment Bouza seems all over the place, whilst Bav's is simply not consistent enough to be a League 2 keeper.

Our defence as we know has been leaking goals all season long, but as long as we kept scoring more it was never a problem until now when you could almost drive an arctic truck through our defence.
 
it to me as always started wi the man between the sticks, Defenders need confidence in that very man, which then generates throughout the side, the only way i see fer this to be properly addressed is by the mangement to stop playing "Happy Families" n "Jobs fer the Boys" n get "PROFESSIONAL" were in the league now fer gods sake.:rolleyes:
 
Its not just whats behind the back four,but whats in front,ie defend from the front.The front two aren't working hard enough to close down,and there is also very little protection in front of the back four,with both central midfielders caught forward,and struggle to get back when the oppostion attack,thats were I would expect someone like John Mullin with all his experience to just sit in front of the back four and put his foot on the ball, a la Paul Cook.
 
Unless Jimmy Ryan was injured, it was a gigantic mistake to take him off. Luke Joyce had to come on because our midfield was as leaky as a colander (putting the already shaky defence under great pressure) but Jimmy Ryan was the only midfield player with any real attacking impetus. Aside from the great assist for the goal, Chris Turner was struggling as was Procter - either should've made way before Jimmy.

McCarten had a nightmare. Perhaps he's still feeling the effects of the illness that kept him from travelling on Saturday but he didn't do anything right. Hopefully we'll see Flynn make another appearance at the expense of Kempo. When he gets frustrated it helps no one.
 
Fourth official said:
Its not just whats behind the back four,but whats in front,ie defend from the front.The front two aren't working hard enough to close down,and there is also very little protection in front of the back four,with both central midfielders caught forward,and struggle to get back when the oppostion attack,thats were I would expect someone like John Mullin with all his experience to just sit in front of the back four and put his foot on the ball, a la Paul Cook.
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Know what yer saying, but disagree Billy Kee drops back regular, stands on post to defend corners n in effect works his ass off every game, unless i'm watching a differant game.:confused:
 
cashman said:
Know what yer saying, but disagree Billy Kee drops back regular, stands on post to defend corners n in effect works his ass off every game, unless i'm watching a differant game.:confused:
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I was meaning more in open play to close down opposition full backs,eg Rush & Beardsley ,everybody drops back at corners,Symes also does a good job at defending the near post.I have always said it would be interesting when defending corners if a team left 2 players up front,one wide on each touchline,how would they be marked?
 
We have a few problems in defence, we do not have a LB, so we are playing one of our many CB's there and though, I do not doubt his commitment and attitude, he does get caught out and the main reason for that, is he is playing out of position :)

Tom Lees was great for about 25/30 games, but has really gone off the boil, he struggles to pass to anybody on his own Team these days.

The main thing, is what most of us think, we do not have a No1 keeper, all this chopping and changing, helps nobody, least of all the four in front of him, Boozer will be out and Bavs back in on Saturday and the whole thing will start again!! :eek: :)

We need a good keeper - Kenny Arthur type, who will always be in goal, then the defence is built around him :) :)

In Phil and Kempo, we have two good CB's, but we need one either side and one behind, to help move us forward next season :) :)

Just my humble opinion :)
 
Fourth official said:
I have always said it would be interesting when defending corners if a team left 2 players up front,one wide on each touchline,how would they be marked?
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They would keep at least three of the opposition defenders near them, which would leave 9 Stanley players to defend the corner against 7 opponents. And it would give Stanley's defence two options when hoofing the ball out. Of course, they might opt for the third option and hoof it down the middle, where there wasn't a Stanley player.
But I too can't understand why Stanley's attacking 'wide' men drift in to the middle whenever play is on the opposite wing; it's almost as if they have been told to mark the opposition's full back, not stay away from him.
 
I like to take to task valarian blaming deano/left back for the defensive problems , firsty all the goals conceeded are to be seen on tv, how many would you put down to him ? watch them and you will be suprised.
The biggest culprit is what is called the square ie 2 centre backs and 2 centre midfielders. doesnt matter how many crosses come in ,if your square defends particulary the second ball you rarely conceed.
The other main problem is the full backs are asked to stay out wide leaving big gaps between the full back and centre backs for runners to exploit . different coaches have different ideas on this
true deano is a centre back/sweeper but has played there only twice (and he scored).
His best position is sweeper prob along side kempo ,but edwards wont be rested as hes played over 100 consecutive games
He played along side kempo in pre season and they never conceeded whilst together.
The major factor is the pitches,and since feb its there for all to see,the team have been asked to go long and the team has not got the players to do this,hence the ball just comes straight back
So before looking for scapegoats , study the facts first,by the way he can use his left foot as well as his right ---- rant over
 
Sorry football19 - in no way am I blaming Winnard - re-read my post please, but I am not blaming him, I am blaming the club, for not having a LB and as Macca as so correctly pointed out, Winnard is a Right footed CB!! Winnard has been a good player for us and I would love to see him pushing/playing at CB :) :) If it came over in any other way - sorry :)
 
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