Over worked doctors ?

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington

Isn’t it bad when you have given your all to the NHS and then when you need help…it isn’t there?

Last week an ambulance turned up for a lady who lives opposite, she is in her 80s, wheel chair bound, she even has to sleep in it, she has carers and her relatives coming every day; me and Hazel also keep an eye on her.
When she had not returned home after a couple of days Hazel rang her daughter to see if her mum was alright, the answer was, Quote "my mother was left on a trolley in the hospital corridor for 48hours". The said daughter stayed with her until a bed was finally found.

N.H.S. Should read N.R.H.S. No Rush Health Service, I could put it stronger than that but I don't like profaning the English language.
 
Taddy that is how it is. I have had two very recent experiences of this kind of treatment.
It does not instil any kind of confidence in the service.
Ans it is not the fault of the staff(well, not in the main) it is the fault in the system.
It is overwhelmed. Often by people who should not be there.

These people who should not be there are there because the GP service is not fit for purpose.

Tell this lady's Daughter to contact Martin Hodgson. He is the chief exec of ELHT.
Tell her to tell him of her experience and ask him if he would want his family to be treated in such a cavalier way.
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
Tell this lady's Daughter to contact Martin Hodgson. He is the chief exec of ELHT.
Tell her to tell him of her experience and ask him if he would want his family to be treated in such a cavalier way.
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He needn’t worry about such things, Margaret; if he doesn’t have it as part of his (over) generous executive salary package he can probably easily afford private cover.
 
Yes, I know.
And can you imagine the stir in A&E if they said ‘Martin Hodgson’s mother is coming in by ambulance’.

When my other half was left on a trolley for 21 hrs ten days after discharge from Blackpool after having heart by pass surgery(essential heart medications omitted during that time, so his safety compromised),

I sent Martin Hodgson an email that documented his experience and outlined my concerns.
I told him that their logo lied….the care was not safe, it was not effective and it was not personal…that my husband had neither his confidentiality or his dignity preserved or respected.
Within two hours I had one of his senior team members on the phone to me.
Yes there were apologies, but apologies mean nothing when someone you care about had their life put in danger by poor care.
 
I have just been listening to the news about the Bibby Stockholm.
The barge that is due to become home to 500 single male migrants.
Now I hear you saying ‘what has that got to do with overworked Doctors?

Well this barge will have the services of a doctor on the barge five days per week.
So there will be no difficulty for these incomers, who have contributed nothing to the NHS.
They will not have any kind of wait…oh yes there will be a dentist at their beck and call too.

I am not being racist or xenophobic in making this comment.
I am just reflecting on how unfair this is to those who live in the Portland area who cannot get a GP appointment or see a dentist when they have paid into the system all their lives.
 
I think its typical of what the N.H.S. has become NOW.these junior docs,seemto me NOT TO CARE WHO DIES. whilst they are after 35 per cent, thats my take on it.
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
I have just been listening to the news about the Bibby Stockholm.
The barge that is due to become home to 500 single male migrants.
Now I hear you saying ‘what has that got to do with overworked Doctors?

Well this barge will have the services of a doctor on the barge five days per week.
So there will be no difficulty for these incomers, who have contributed nothing to the NHS.
They will not have any kind of wait…oh yes there will be a dentist at their beck and call too.

I am not being racist or xenophobic in making this comment.
I am just reflecting on how unfair this is to those who live in the Portland area who cannot get a GP appointment or see a dentist when they have paid into the system all their lives.

Marge, you are so absolutely correct in what you are saying that I wish that I had thought of it myself, (honestly).
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Taddy, it just seems so wrong that the residents of Portland will have 500 single men dumped on their doorstep….that these will have all their health needs met while the population of Portland can go whistle for a GP appointment or dental care.
Something ar$3 uppards about all this.
 
I have given up wanting to see a doctor, I'm in pain because of a back injury but in the past 2+ years not 1 medical person has actually touched my back to see where the problem is.
They just make assumptions over the phone and give me tablets to hide the pain.
Attempts to get an MRI have failed twice thanks to their useless booking system.

I think I'll turn to weed for some pain killer, never had it but I hear it's good for taking pain away.
At least I can get that quickly and easily :)
 
Rainbow six…I feel for you.
Not that this helps you in any way.
I do not know which Gp you are with, but I would suggest you find out who the practice manager is and that you E- mail them with a timeline of your difficulties.
Tell them that a copy of your letter is going to your MP and the Secretary of State for health.
I am not saying that this will bear results, but I think it will make the practice sit up and take notice.(and hopefully galvanise them into action)
Let them know that this is a COMPLAINT.
They have to respond to this in a specific time and they have to tell you what they are going to do about it to resolve the issues.
I hope you take my advice because for too long we have been in an unsupported situation with regards to health care.
Good luck.
 
RainbowSix said:
I have given up wanting to see a doctor, I'm in pain because of a back injury but in the past 2+ years not 1 medical person has actually touched my back to see where the problem is.
They just make assumptions over the phone and give me tablets to hide the pain.
Attempts to get an MRI have failed twice thanks to their useless booking system.

I think I'll turn to weed for some pain killer, never had it but I hear it's good for taking pain away.

Yes it may do but it will also take you brain away, (so I am led to believe).
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well over the last couple of years .. ive had numerous hospital appointments with consultants for my eye and the shoulder, physio (till they found out that physio was making it worse .. and then found out there was another injury) and the latest was to see a cardiologist the other week ... which has he said it was nearly a year since i was referred ... and as i hadnt had any more episodes he'll put me thro just to make sure somekind of check where they get my heart to race and check the results ... i digress tho ... in all of this time .. i have not had an appointment with my gp ...when i tried to make an appointment the next one available was the middle of june i was asking at the end of april ....they told me to ring at 8am and i'l get a phone call .. and the doc will decide if i had to come in .. i said thats the urgent appointments not just a regular one ... and she said well thats all we have now. I didnt book it and i still aint seen my gp .. but in this time ive seen a cardiologist, an orthopedic surgeon (3 times), and had phone calls from the orthopedic surgeon 4 times ... had a phone call from the neurologist as well ...

but this one ... last december i got a phone call from blackburn royal as they were trying to get the waiting list down ... and they'd cocked up with me .. they asked if i would be willing to go to beardwood ... to have it done ... i said yes .. i got an appointment and had it done in february .. it felt just like being done on a production line .. same consultant id seen at blackburn did the procedure at beardwood (a private hospital in blackburn for those that dont know) !!! ive had follow up phone calls from the consultant ... had another one of these at the end of june (on a monday night)... he said i'll put you thro for another one .. on the saturday i had 2 letters one a letter about the phone call from the consultant .. the other an appointment for the procedure at beardwood again .. just over a week ago!!!! same consultant again ... did the procedure ... and i was back home by 11.30am .. i now have another follow up call booked with the consultant in a couple of weeks ...

all this is being done by beardwood .. a private hospital .. the nhs is paying them .. i thought the first one was a one off .. it now seems that im under beardwood for this and theyre doing all the followups .. wouldnt it be cheaper to do it at burnley or blackburn or even get my own gp to do it .. rather than paying private hospital rates ...
 
Yes, GP's now get paid for how many patients they have on their books, not by how many they see. As for the consultant you saw he probably gets paid twice as much at Beardwood than doing the same job on the NHS and the NHS (ie you and me) are paying the consultant and they are then paying twice as much again.

The government and system don't want you living too long, you become a drain on the system, the want you to work until you are 67, pay minimum state pension, you then go into care and they take all your money and property until you die. That's the reality folks... Sadly
 
I am not sure if it is still the same, but when I worked in the NHS, these services were contracted out to the private hospitals and from my recollections the consultants did not get paid the private rate.
I have a friend who was a gynae consultant and this information was from her

The situation of using private hospitals like Beardwood and Gisburn park was because they had facilities lying idle and if my memory serves me right the facilities were loaned to NHS so that the hospitals were getting a guaranteed income.
Well, that is how it used to work anyway.
 
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