Panopticon Poll

What are your objections to the Panopticon project?

  • I would prefer a different site to be considered.

    Votes: 13 28.9%

  • I do not like the aesthetics of the design.

    Votes: 3 6.7%

  • I do not like the entire rationale behind the project.

    Votes: 12 26.7%

  • I appreciate the rationale behind the project but the scheme needs to be further developed.

    Votes: 11 24.4%

  • I have no objections to the Panopticon project.

    Votes: 6 13.3%
  • Total voters
    45
  • Poll closed .
Gayle

Gayle

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This is the final thread that I will start on this subject - promise.

I'm having to start in a new thread as technically, I didn't start the main thread last night Busman747 did by transferring my original letter over from a different area.

Anyway, thanks for all the debate it was useful. Could I ask that you please don't use this thread for any more questions, just for filling in the poll. Keep posting questions in the thread A message from Gayle Knight. Thanks.

By the way, that last poll question should read objections - not objects.
 
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I've posted this just to raise it in the message list again. It would be unfortunate for it to be ignored as some people have been very vocal on the subject.
 
Roy said:
In case anybody has just seen this vote, it is in relation to this thread here:
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/t8867-on-behalf-of-gayle-night.html
Which contains a Question and Answer session with the Panopticon Press Officer Gayle Knight (I'm not sure if that is your correct title :))
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Actual title is Marketing Officer for Mid Pennine Arts but Panopticon Press Officer does kind of explain it, so doesn't really matter. Thanks for spelling my name right though, most people haven't.

Yes, could I stress that it would be useful for people to read the other thread first before responding to this poll.
 
Just to let you all know, I'm going to a meeting on Monday so I need to write a report before I go. I'll feed the results from the poll into the report but that means that I'll have to draw a line on voting at around about 3pm tomorrow. I know technically the poll will be open longer than that but I don't want to be working on Sunday night. Hope that's ok with you all - voting seems to have slowed down a bit anyway.
 
May I put a couple of points forward here? As someone who no longer lives in the area I cannot see that an earthwork on top of the Coppice which would be invisible from ground level would encourage any future visitors to go up there as they probably wouldn't be aware of it once the novelty had worn off and it no longer featured in local press.

Having said that, if you are trying to attract people to the area would it not make more sense to have something which can be seen and which people would notice and hopefully subsequently talk about? (Like the Angel of the North which has been mentioned elsewhere.) Even a piece of modern sculpture at the front of the Coppice on a level with the monument would seem more sensible than mounds or circles of earth visible only from above.
 
I've had to call a halt to the poll now so that I can write a report for a meeting tomorrow. Whilst I thoroughly appreciate that there is still work to be done to get the project right, I am heartened by the fact that only 28% objected to the project in its entirity. This number does concur with all other polls and comments forms that we have collected. I realise that 43 voters is not a huge amount but added to other figures that we have the numbers are starting to add up (plus I know that some of the objectors have voted here and have voted by completing comments forms at the exhibitions which does skew the figures a little).

I want to get the right design for Hyndburn, I live here and I have to live with whatever happens. So, thank you all for taking the time to talk to me the other night and please be assured that all your comments are being taken into consideration.
 
I have no objections to the Panopticon project, 13%, be a better indication as it was the only stright out and out question?
 
A rather selective interpretation of the figures there I think Gayle.

From my reading of the results 13.64% had no objection to the project. Everyone else had some form of reservation or other, that is 38 out of a total of 44, or 86.36%.

I fail to see how this supports your claim that the project has 75% support.
 
Acrylic-bob said:
A rather selective interpretation of the figures there I think Gayle.

From my reading of the results 13.64% had no objection to the project. Everyone else had some form of reservation or other, that is 38 out of a total of 44, or 86.36%.

I fail to see how this supports your claim that the project has 75% support.
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As is yours. I didn't say that there was 75% support - I said that there were 28% objecting all out to the project and the principles behind it. The remainder, whilst having issues and reservations, did not object outright. Therefore, we need to do more work to ensure that the 72% were happy in the end.
 
In the words of Benjamin Disraeli:

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
 
There is something not quite right about this. In her previous comments on the level of support for the proposal, gleaned from public meetings, Gayle said that the results showed a level of support of 75%. She did not qualify this statement in any way.
Now it seems that since the poll she held on this site does not show the same 75% support, all of a sudden qualifications and quibbles abound - anything it seems can be stretched and manipulated to achieve the desired result.

This is exactly the way that quango's operate. How could we have imagined that NWRDA's mouthpiece would act any differently?

Welcome to the New Democracy - you can vote as many times as you like but, we will only count the votes that agree with us.
 
Acrylic-bob said:
Welcome to the New Democracy - you can vote as many times as you like but, we will only count the votes that agree with us.
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How many times have you actually voted? I'm sure you've voted here so have you voted at the consultations too? I hope no one is attempting to skew the figures by voting more than once! Or is it ok if the people who are objecting get more than one vote as you seem to imply?
 
Uncle Mick said:
I thought you did`nt want to work Sunday night Gayle, you are missing Heartbeat!!
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Thank you for pointing that out but I've been missing Heartbeat since the first episode, I think I can miss one more.
 
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