Tealeaf said:
Paranoid or what? I only came on because I was looking for more websites with background info on and this forum site popped up. Thought free speech was still allowed in this country?
Panopticons
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Paranoid or what? I only came on because I was looking for more websites with background info on and this forum site popped up. Thought free speech was still allowed in this country?
I’m neither for nor against this idea at this moment in time, if we are to have a modern folly then lets have one that reflects the heritage of Accrington and her people, not some soft bollocks dressed up as modern art. I was in Accy today. First up Burnley Road where resurfacing work as in some places exposed the intact cobble sets. A bit of history coming to the surface.
I went around town for an hour or so and didn’t see much really, choice is very limited and the streets, although not as mucky then they have been on previous visits, it wasn’t brilliant to see. I saw the same girl on three separate occasions mopping the floor in the Arndale Centre with a proper mop no less. What happened to the street cleaning machine that was there a few weeks back?
I still love this town, today I’ve been in Church, Accy Town Centre, up Fern Gore and over to Clayton le Moors. I wasn’t impressed with all I saw, Blackburn road was terribly rundown like you say Margaret. If money is to be spent, real investment that is, then please start in the centre and work your way out towards the boundaries. Put something back in to the heart of Accrington before you dress her up like a tart.
I went around town for an hour or so and didn’t see much really, choice is very limited and the streets, although not as mucky then they have been on previous visits, it wasn’t brilliant to see. I saw the same girl on three separate occasions mopping the floor in the Arndale Centre with a proper mop no less. What happened to the street cleaning machine that was there a few weeks back?
I still love this town, today I’ve been in Church, Accy Town Centre, up Fern Gore and over to Clayton le Moors. I wasn’t impressed with all I saw, Blackburn road was terribly rundown like you say Margaret. If money is to be spent, real investment that is, then please start in the centre and work your way out towards the boundaries. Put something back in to the heart of Accrington before you dress her up like a tart.
Tealeaf said:
A Panopticon for Hyndburn of course. I was searching for Accrington sites and general information on the scheme (I like to be fully informed before I weigh into a debate) and stumbled on this one, along with Accrington Observer's and HBC's.
Ahh, Panopticons. The very idea gets people as emotional as anything else I have ever seen discussed on these pages. And I think that's the whole point. When was the last time anybody bothered to comment on how nice the Coppice was, or how lovely a spot Keple End in the Ribble Valley is? (The Valley's site for a Panopticon)
Yes, of course a shopping centre with a nice Next would be lovely. But what would it really achieve? A few extra hundred people heading into the area per week? Possibly not even that, from what I've heard.
The Panopticons however seem to offer the potential for something else. A way for the area to be put on a tourist map. Anyone heard of the Great Days Out? Gets people on coaches into Accy, stopping at Ossy Mills etc. My gran has been on several of these trips and loved em. Said she wouldn't have bothered with Accy otherwise. Imagine now if Accy were on a route for a Panopticon tour? Same thing.
And by the way, the architect designing the things? He won't be building them single-handedly!!! I think the only spin he would put on it is defending his design, which any artist would do, until it is built by whatever European funding is finally thrown our way!
Yes, of course a shopping centre with a nice Next would be lovely. But what would it really achieve? A few extra hundred people heading into the area per week? Possibly not even that, from what I've heard.
The Panopticons however seem to offer the potential for something else. A way for the area to be put on a tourist map. Anyone heard of the Great Days Out? Gets people on coaches into Accy, stopping at Ossy Mills etc. My gran has been on several of these trips and loved em. Said she wouldn't have bothered with Accy otherwise. Imagine now if Accy were on a route for a Panopticon tour? Same thing.
And by the way, the architect designing the things? He won't be building them single-handedly!!! I think the only spin he would put on it is defending his design, which any artist would do, until it is built by whatever European funding is finally thrown our way!
Tealeaf said:And your very first thread and posting is all in favour of the Panopticon? Sounds to me like going to court and beginning with the verdict, then having the trial.
Wecome to Accy web, by the way!!
I shouldn't have to explain myself but I will. The chain of events was as follows. I was fairly sure I liked the scheme but didn't know enough about it so went to the meeting. Now convince it's a good thing for the town. Certainly not a bad thing. Came home and over the weekend did some more research. Found this site through the search engine and read through reams and reams to stuff and threads about it. Decided to join in because I thought it might help if you had a view from someone who was into the idea. Just opens up the debate a bit.
its confusin me a bit. i mean how some bumps on the coppice be art.
I have often spent time up on the Coppice......I used to run there regularly, and although I may not mention it on here......unless there is cause to......the views are stunning. I do not feel that the Panopticons have anything that will improve the natural beauty of the area......and if we are going to have them just so that we can have a share of some funding...... is that not a bit hypocritical......a bit like prostituting ourselves for a bit of cash. I also think that the earthworks will attract mountain bikers, motor scramblers etc. I think it will go ahead regardless of what we think.
it cantluke orourke 1988 said:
but a few bumps on the coppice can become an eyesore pretty fast
the shelters and stone monument up there are alreadsy covered in graffiti so what do they think will happen to the bumps or any other crap put up there
i remember when the cross was put up their at easter it was burnt to ashes every year
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I've had a great day out today. I did look up at the coppice and smiled to myself as I remembered what a fantastic place it was before they stuck trees all over it. You need to get a grip here folks, this will not bring people in to Accrington, and it’s a waist of money and will end up just another wart on the landscape covered in spray paint. If your going to do anything clean up the town and then preserve what’s left of the areas heritage and give people something to come and see that’s worth the effort. They may even stay around and spend some money if the towns decent for them. What the **** do you think their going to do.
“Get the kids in the Datsun love”, we’re off to see Accy’s Panopticons and then we can have a curry on that ****ty old road. Afterward we can go on to Burnley and spend some money…..Dream on.
“Get the kids in the Datsun love”, we’re off to see Accy’s Panopticons and then we can have a curry on that ****ty old road. Afterward we can go on to Burnley and spend some money…..Dream on.
If instead of trying to make some sense out of what is an absolute piece of garbage then I would agree that this Panopticon is worth having, but instead of something pleasing to the eye of the beholder we are being offered a cheap hurried half-baked idea, Ignore the Coppice let's get Broadway to be something we can be proud of once more, for us, NOT TOURISTS. Once we, the people can feel proud of this area then we can invite others to visit & we will proudly show them what we have, just covering the cracks with a distastful & cheap wallpaper will only show that really, we just don't care.
Call me old fashioned but I think this would be nice.
Call me old fashioned but I think this would be nice.
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