I think you're probably right. I've always found that whenever we have arranged any 'classes' or similar that the only people who actually turn up are the ones who don't need to. Preaching to the converted.
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I think you're probably right. I've always found that whenever we have arranged any 'classes' or similar that the only people who actually turn up are the ones who don't need to. Preaching to the converted.
Think your spot on there Willow, you don't see the parents of kids who are forever in trouble actually asking to be taught how to be better parents, they usually don't give a stuff, or or to occupied down the pub to care
Parenting classes aren't for bad parents, they are for parents who want to learn about new methods of caring for their children. Not everyone is a naturally fantastic parent with angelic children!
I think parenting classes are a good idea and can only bring parents and their children closer together so what is the harm?
I think parenting classes are a good idea and can only bring parents and their children closer together so what is the harm?
The phrase 'you can take a horse to water, but you cant make it drink', springs to mind
While you may feel that parenting classes are a good idea......and they may well be, but you have to get the parents who need the help to recognise that they DO need help.
And I'm not sure that parenting classes will necessarily bring parents and children closer together, if the closeness does not exist in the first place, I fail to see how parenting classes will facilitate it.
I think the very name Parenting Class is a barrier to the uptake of such a scheme...it could be promoted in a much less condescending and patronising way....and for it to be effective, it would have to be.
Ive just found the leaflet thatcame from school....its says "Parent survival course"
WHAT IS THE PARENT SURVIVAL COURSE
The courseis aimed atparents atcarers who care full time for children between the ages of 2 and 8. It is based on theidea thta being a parent is hard work and most parents find it difficult to deal with their childs behaviour atsome point. We also know that some children are more difficult to manage than others. The course aims to help parents feel more confident in dealing with their child behaviour, without looking to find blame
The course aims to
help you bring out the best behaviour in your children
Build upon your skills and techniques for dealing with difficult behaviour
Provide supoort to families
Increase your self-confidence.
there will be chances to talk about your own experiences and practice new ideas and meet other parents who are having similar experiences and share ideas with each other,
WHAT IS THE PARENT SURVIVAL COURSE
The courseis aimed atparents atcarers who care full time for children between the ages of 2 and 8. It is based on theidea thta being a parent is hard work and most parents find it difficult to deal with their childs behaviour atsome point. We also know that some children are more difficult to manage than others. The course aims to help parents feel more confident in dealing with their child behaviour, without looking to find blame
The course aims to
help you bring out the best behaviour in your children
Build upon your skills and techniques for dealing with difficult behaviour
Provide supoort to families
Increase your self-confidence.
there will be chances to talk about your own experiences and practice new ideas and meet other parents who are having similar experiences and share ideas with each other,
If that is what it is about, then I think it needs to be well advertised, and promoted differently.
I don't think that approaching parents in a nursery/school playground is the way to go....especially if the person promoting calls them 'parenting classes'.
I still think that most parents are savvy enough to seek out help if they are in difficulty....the ones who don't do this are the ones who would not attend such a course anyway.
Where is the funding coming from for such a venture? Does anyone know?
I don't think that approaching parents in a nursery/school playground is the way to go....especially if the person promoting calls them 'parenting classes'.
I still think that most parents are savvy enough to seek out help if they are in difficulty....the ones who don't do this are the ones who would not attend such a course anyway.
Where is the funding coming from for such a venture? Does anyone know?
I think I know which nursery this was but I won't name them. One of my friends was telling me about these classes. They advise you how to speak to your children, how harsh tones can make children afraid, not to resort to shouting as after a while they children block you out, no smacking, they advise you on other ways of punishing bad behaviour.
I wouldn't pour scorn on anyone who attends these classes, they are only trying to do their best for their children.....however, like others have said, the people who really could do with these classes wouldn't dream of going as they never think they need help with parenting.
I must admit I might agree with you for the first time ever
However some try harder than others at it and when they need help will usually go about trying to get it.
If they are the people who the course is aimed at then maybe it becomes easier to find help. Perhaps it should be a compulsory course for all parents then those who do really need help won't be missed out, of course that assumes you don't need to be sober or drug free to turn up
I know kids grow up quicker these days but does childhood end at 8 or do they become a lost cause if not trained by then
It seems to be badly worded.
Presumably if your'e a working parent you're doing a better job ( and yes I'm joking before anybody takes the huff
)I think there are a lot of parents who give children material things but not much of their time....mostly because they are working and have little time to spare.
Children, in the main, benefit from activites that are undertaken as a family....this is one of the things that brings true closeness....children being made to feel that they are important.
But maybe my ideas are old fashioned and out moded...after all...what do I know it is 40 years since I did my parenting.....and I didn't feel like i was any good at it.
Children, in the main, benefit from activites that are undertaken as a family....this is one of the things that brings true closeness....children being made to feel that they are important.
But maybe my ideas are old fashioned and out moded...after all...what do I know it is 40 years since I did my parenting.....and I didn't feel like i was any good at it.
I know kids grow up quicker these days but does childhood end at 8 or do they become a lost cause if not trained by then
Well, there is the old saying of the Jesuits -
"Give me the child until 7 years of age and I will give you the man."
I believe there's a lot of truth in that. Children learn more in their first few years of life than they ever will afterwards. That's the impressionable age when they learn language, behaviour, tastes, their natural intelligence is either promoted or devalued and their impression of the world and the way it reacts to them, and they to it, becomes fixed.
There are a few who aren't pointed the right way as infants and still manage, somehow, to turn out really well but they are the minority. Most of the little ones who are "dragged up" by dreadful, clueless parents grow up to be dreadful and clueless themselves.
I know kids grow up quicker these days but does childhood end at 8 or do they become a lost cause if not trained by then
It seems to be badly worded )
Have you not heard the saying...'Give me a child until he is 7 and I shall give you the man' ?
There's the answer.
West Ender, you are so right.
We depend very much for our own parenting skills on that which we experienced while growing up....and our parenting styles will closely mimic the one our parents used(in the main).......so children who had parents with few of these skills will have less ability to deal with the problems of parenting.
We depend very much for our own parenting skills on that which we experienced while growing up....and our parenting styles will closely mimic the one our parents used(in the main).......so children who had parents with few of these skills will have less ability to deal with the problems of parenting.
Have you not heard the saying...'Give me a child until he is 7 and I shall give you the man' ?
There's the answer.
My daughter will be well pleased at that prospect
I have 2 older stpechildren from a previous relationship. At 8 years old they were 2 of the most well behaved and polite children you could wish for. At 11 they went to secondary school, that put the Jesuit theory in to the trash bin I'm afraid
Have you not heard the saying...'Give me a child until he is 7 and I shall give you the man' ?
There's the answer.
SOLD!! when are you picking him up
SOLD!! when are you picking him up
Hahaha...I think they need to be with someone from birth to 7 to form a character based on the parenting they've received so it's too late for your son. What's done is done.
"Give me a child until he is 7 and I shall give you the man"
Yes we've all heard this. Maybe there is some truth in it. But that still depends on their upbringing.
How are the children from the programme that used that saying doing these days? Would be interesting to know. We must be due another update soon. Are we saying that we can't change a child after this?
Why just till 8?
Can vouch from having 6 kids meself, all of whom have been through the teenage years, the worst is yet to come, lol!
If you haven't got it in you, to be a decent parent, or ask for help if you are struggling, which comes naturally, I would say, if you want the best for your kids. Then, maybe, you would need help with these skills. But would this kind of parent ask for, or even want the help, as they are often much more concerned usually with themselves than their kids?
Agree to some extent with what Margaret P says about mimicking our own parents parenting skills, this is often the case for the worse, things going from bad to worse through generations of a family. these cases i would say cause a lot of problems in todays society. But not all of us whos own parents parenting skills leave a lot to be desired do this, they tend to go to the other extreme, wanting to make sure their kids have a better upbringing than they them selves got.
Yes we've all heard this. Maybe there is some truth in it. But that still depends on their upbringing.
How are the children from the programme that used that saying doing these days? Would be interesting to know. We must be due another update soon. Are we saying that we can't change a child after this?
Why just till 8?
Can vouch from having 6 kids meself, all of whom have been through the teenage years, the worst is yet to come, lol!
If you haven't got it in you, to be a decent parent, or ask for help if you are struggling, which comes naturally, I would say, if you want the best for your kids. Then, maybe, you would need help with these skills. But would this kind of parent ask for, or even want the help, as they are often much more concerned usually with themselves than their kids?
Agree to some extent with what Margaret P says about mimicking our own parents parenting skills, this is often the case for the worse, things going from bad to worse through generations of a family. these cases i would say cause a lot of problems in todays society. But not all of us whos own parents parenting skills leave a lot to be desired do this, they tend to go to the other extreme, wanting to make sure their kids have a better upbringing than they them selves got.