when i left school i was a apprentice butcher at a large meat factory most of the meat e.g. hinds,fours,etc was brought from out of the big freezers and were frozen solid, so perhaps york council will also save the butchers from getting cold hands!!! cos frozen bins occasionally aint in the same league, i NEVER heard so much CRAP in all my life. but i,m CERTAIN i shall hear much more from the PC dumbells.