Petrol Boycott

K.S.H said:
I couldn't give a toss if it is or not, I'd tell them myself if they asked me, I have done the test a few times and its my opinion that its crap, everyone is entitled to have their own opinion.
I never told anyone NOT to buy it, I told you to do the test yourself, don't you see this kind of thing on the TV ads everyday? fair enough they don't call the cometitive products crap but thats what there trying to say :)
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LOL K.S.H you say it how it is, don't beat about the bush. It's crap.
I used to notice the same when I filled up at certain places too, save petrol made the car sluggish.
 
SPAM – an UNSOLICITED email that offers a service or something for sale.

However if at the head you declare that it will be the only email that the recipient will receive from you and there is a disclaimer at the end with a link to enable your email address to be removed from the database and you identify yourself with name and address, then it is not classed as SPAM. It becomes legitimate advertising.

However none of that is necessary if you write something like:
“My friends and me have decided not to buy petrol from any Esso or BP garage for the foreseeable future. We will only buy from Shell and supermarket garages instead. We are doing so in protest at the high pump prices. We reason that lack of sales of BP and Esso petrol throughout the UK will force those two companies to reassess their pricing policy. When they do it will put pressure on other petrol companies to do the same. The end result being a reduction in petrol prices at the pump.”

You will notice that nowhere does it invite the recipient to join the boycott. To do so could be classed as inviting collusion.

Incidentally who supplies the petrol for the various supermarkets? Surely Esso and BP are in there somewhere even if the brand name isn’t on the pumps. Has Shell got themselves a monopoly in supplying supermarkets?

Sadly the scheme is a non-starter except for a few dedicated people. People will say, “Yes! Great idea!” then come the next day they will have forgotten all about it and fill up as usual.

We, the general public, are a divided bunch and will cater to our own needs over and above the needs of anyone else.

The petrol companies and the government, if you pardon the phrase, “have us over a barrel.”
 
jambutty.. no one is saying the mail is SPAM ...

another one not had the good manners to read the thread...

the mail is chainmail not spam.. spam was added to the conversation as an aside by hatter and nothing to do with the original email.
 
In that case we're all agreed it's not spam, and chain mails aren't illegal, so whats the problem with it.
 
Just one thing with your petrol revolt, go to any refinery and you will see tankers of all denominations going in empty coming out full. BP and ESSO, will just laugh.
 
all the supermarkets get their fuel of the large companies. there's bp, esso, shell, and a couple of others if I remember right.
 
Collusion to do someone harm is illegal Madhatter. As in conspiracy to defraud.

But I did read the opening post KIPAX and the thread and concluded that such an email could be seen as SPAM hence my response.

I wish you luck in your quest but I fear that it will be a wasted effort.
 
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probably why I mentioned it to.

It's not defrauding them though is it, your saying that if people don't buy their products they may lower the price as a result.
To ask for someone cooperation against rivals isn't illegal as far as I can see, unless you can find something. It says it is in the states though.

In criminal law, fraud is the crime or offense of deliberately deceiving another in order to damage them — usually, to obtain property or services from him or her unjustly.
No ones being decieved.
 
I’m no lawyer but some smart mouthpiece could argue that preventing a person from selling their goods by asking others to boycott buying them can be construed as fraud and of course it is damaging them. No sales, no profit – ergo damaging the business.

I would like the scheme to succeed but we members of the public are not united so it has to fail in the end.

Sorry KIPAX and godfrey but that is my view.
 
I don't think it will either, but as a matter of course you should be sourcing fuel at the cheapest convenient place. that helps to keep price down and competative as has been said. We buy ours either on a bunker card for those that go to aberdeen, or here from the brobot fuel depot. As I only go as far as kent or carlisle I can fill up here.
 
KIPAX said:
sending somehting to your friends isnt spam... thats pretty obvious.. I think your getting mixed up.. godfreys idea isnt spam and no one said it was....

oh dear.. you did read the thread yes ?: )
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Then stop arguing about spam! :p
His idea is not great because it needs too much support and people won't inconvinience themselves, but it's not illegal :p

And erm, anyone saying boycotting a product is illegal, well, I hope to god you're wrong. It's everyones choice what the heck they do with their money, and if I said to someone, hey lets not buy from X shop because it's prices are too dear, and we'll let them know about it in the form of a letter so that they might decrease prices..

I can't see how thats illegal unless you live somewhere like N Korea ;)

Signing up to this: http://www.pipelinecard.org/
Will help you get cheaper petrol though.
 
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Does this mean you actually read the thread you where replying to now?

Maybe we like arguing about spam.. so who are you to tell us to stop?


Signing up to this: http://www.pipelinecard.org/
Will help you get cheaper petrol though.
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hahaha you poor deluded soul... show me where it helps you get cheaper petrol... all i can see are if but and maybe...
 
Its not pedantic.. its the difference between information and crap... you post telling people that site will help people get cheaper petrol.... thats absoloute and utter bollox..

then you come back with pedantic ? I think you meant bollox :)
 
something to do with them encouraging mothers in third world to not breast feed by giving free samples of powdered milk, to get them dependant on the stuff.
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just thought I'd add - as an aside - that the boycott of Nestle was actually in protest against their campaign in the third world to convince women that powdered milk was better for their child than breastfeeding. The problem with their claims is that they failed to point out that there are specific guidelines to follow in preparing bottled milk, the instructions on their products were often printed in English, which the mothers quite often couldn't read (if they could even read at all), the water used to prepare the milk was very rarely clean enough for a newborn baby's immune system to cope with if the new mother could get a ready supply of water in the first place, and finally, due to the sheer cost of powdered milk in relation to income, many women in the third world tended to put less powder in the mixture than was required (to make it go further), thus causing huge rises in infant mortality due to malnutrition. It was an evil affair, Nestle knew what was happening, but they just stepped up their advertising campaign and even had representatives who'd travel around advising young mothers to bottle-feed.

Anyway, back on topic - Petrochemical companies - another bunch of corporate crooks. Just boycotting petrol forecourts won't hurt them in the slightest as they're instrumental in so many industries that it'll merely be like a fly buzzing around an elephant - a mild annoyance at best. Their biggest market is probably in the production of plastics - used for pretty much everything these days. Has anyone else noticed how much useless plastic packaging everything we buy comes in nowadays? I don't see the point - when you buy something you generally take it out of the packaging and throw that packaging away, and the Council say they can't recycle half of the plastic used!!! What an utter waste of energy and resources.. tsk tsk!
 
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You know you want one - buy it now!!!
 
KIPAX said:
Its not pedantic.. its the difference between information and crap... you post telling people that site will help people get cheaper petrol.... thats absoloute and utter bollox..

then you come back with pedantic ? I think you meant bollox :)
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It's not that at all. If you read the website it explains how they want to get people cheaper petrol, it explains how they're going to do it, it explains that they're in talks with major producers. I posted a link to the website to help people get cheaper petrol, because thats what it will do once the aim of the website is achieved and they have enough members.

Lets not argue about something so trivial please
 
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