I suppose its there own fault, but i liked pilky buses as they are cheaper than others. Who will be running buses now to all the other parts of accrington? m&m?
Pilky Buses
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theyre worse lol, i was once on an m&m when the back seat detched (well the bit you sit on) and the driver said hed just stick it back on again 
How are they usually fixed? I've never looked. Bolted on?
before i got i job i was thinking set up my own bus servierve with the prince tust about 10 yeay go
how far i got was to nearily on the way to apply for licnice put i got job offer instead
iam 28 male put now ithinkibg shall i run service if got the money from bank put what
iam worried if i go bancurt or not what do you think
i would get proper maiten and good bus
put stagecoach object at th time
how far i got was to nearily on the way to apply for licnice put i got job offer instead
iam 28 male put now ithinkibg shall i run service if got the money from bank put what
iam worried if i go bancurt or not what do you think
i would get proper maiten and good bus
put stagecoach object at th time
Well it's nice to hear some of the narrow minded views of some of our local residents and I am not going to deny that some buses are faulty.As a driver I do a physical check of my bus to ensure their are no major problems with it.The fact still remains that about 30 drivers with mortgages and families to provide for will soon be out of work and this is not our fault.The company has let us down and the public,even some of the other drivers are to blame but as I walk into the jobcentre at the end of July my conscience will be clear having the knowledge that everytime I set off to Bacup on the 464 my bus has been checked for major faults(although I am not a mechanic.)
As for 14 year olds fixing the buses,they simply just wash them.
As for 14 year olds fixing the buses,they simply just wash them.
Hi PilkyBusDriver. I've been told by an experienced bus driver that a lot of things that buses are "failed" for are not serious mechanical faults but things like a sign which isn't worded correctly (or has been semi obliterated by vandals).
It was way back in October by all accounts that the buses didn't pass and if they had been dangerous then I have no doubt they'd all have been whipped off the roads pretty sharpish. The fact that they weren't and that we've still been travelling in them and come to no harm surely proves that none were death traps.
The drivers all have my sympathy for the situation they are now in. I've always found Pilky bus drivers to be kind, courteous and very helpful.
It was way back in October by all accounts that the buses didn't pass and if they had been dangerous then I have no doubt they'd all have been whipped off the roads pretty sharpish. The fact that they weren't and that we've still been travelling in them and come to no harm surely proves that none were death traps.
The drivers all have my sympathy for the situation they are now in. I've always found Pilky bus drivers to be kind, courteous and very helpful.
same i hate lancs united drivers, always trying to rip ya off
Its right, they are very strict with buses, the tester even goes round with a stick and bangs the seats, if a lot of dust comes off he will fail it, rightly said about the signs too- all have to be readible and in the correct places. As for loose wheel nuts and faulty brakes there is no excuse, and a decent fitter will not have a 81% MOT failure rate, I once got to October without a failure and was gutted cause I was aiming for a 12 month 100% pass record
The only thing i have against a lot of bus drivers is they will let people stand at the front of the bus talking to them while the bus is moving
i allways thought this was against the bus company policy and a lot of companys have a notice up saying not to talk to the driver while its moving
i have missed my stop on more than 1 occasion becouse they did not here the bell
please note i did not say ALL bus drivers just a few of them
other wise they do a great service
with the roads and the amount of trafic on the roads
i would not do there job for a big clock
i allways thought this was against the bus company policy and a lot of companys have a notice up saying not to talk to the driver while its moving
i have missed my stop on more than 1 occasion becouse they did not here the bell
please note i did not say ALL bus drivers just a few of them
other wise they do a great service
with the roads and the amount of trafic on the roads
i would not do there job for a big clock
Not been on a bus in years.. Was suprised to find they are private. I thought they where corporation buses.
I would guess bus drivers are like wagon drivers. should be responsible for checking the bus every day and if not up to scratch then get it sorted and not drive it. OK in theory, but you wouldn't keep your job long if you refused to take your bus out every other day. I am talking tiny none safety threatening problems...
Like the man said.. probably a lot of safety concious good drivers now out of work... hardly fair
I would guess bus drivers are like wagon drivers. should be responsible for checking the bus every day and if not up to scratch then get it sorted and not drive it. OK in theory, but you wouldn't keep your job long if you refused to take your bus out every other day. I am talking tiny none safety threatening problems...
Like the man said.. probably a lot of safety concious good drivers now out of work... hardly fair
Didn't the paper also say that the Pilkington family were going to set up another bus company run by one of the members of the family not banned? Will the current drivers not be employed by this company?
Pilkies buses have just gone through a thoroughly unfair slagging by the local papers which have obviously influenced the people that read their rubbish. and they say that ignorance is bliss - -
If their buses had an 81% failure rate, this would be unacceptable but for those not in the know, I would like to point out that the "MoT" is carried out by the Ministry and NOT by the local garage like your average car.
I have known coaches to fail because a sign on the courier seat read "crew use only" What is wrong with that? According to strict Ministry rules it should read "for crew use only" or maybe an emergency door that they deem as being "too stiff" when opening!
Talking of emergency doors, one of the "major" defects reported by the papers [/B]wasa faulty door, but if the report was properly reported, it would read that the alarm did not sound in the cockpit (ie: where the driver sits) when the emergency door is opened. Hardly a deathtrap but a certain failure as far as the Ministry are concerned!
Another cause of failure is if the interior or exterior is not clean. All PCV's require steam cleaning underthe vehicle before its test or automatic failure.
This is just a couple of small examples of how strict the Ministry are.
WOULD YOUR CAR PASS SUCH CLOSE SCRUTINY!!
I would not say that Pilkies should not be punished as they are fully aware of the standards required, but in the majority of similar cases I am aware of, the companies concerned have had a percentage of their "O" licenses withdrawn leaving them with a smaller fleet until they get their act together and rethink their maintenance problems.
If their buses had an 81% failure rate, this would be unacceptable but for those not in the know, I would like to point out that the "MoT" is carried out by the Ministry and NOT by the local garage like your average car.
I have known coaches to fail because a sign on the courier seat read "crew use only" What is wrong with that? According to strict Ministry rules it should read "for crew use only" or maybe an emergency door that they deem as being "too stiff" when opening!
Talking of emergency doors, one of the "major" defects reported by the papers [/B]wasa faulty door, but if the report was properly reported, it would read that the alarm did not sound in the cockpit (ie: where the driver sits) when the emergency door is opened. Hardly a deathtrap but a certain failure as far as the Ministry are concerned!
Another cause of failure is if the interior or exterior is not clean. All PCV's require steam cleaning underthe vehicle before its test or automatic failure.
This is just a couple of small examples of how strict the Ministry are.
WOULD YOUR CAR PASS SUCH CLOSE SCRUTINY!!
I would not say that Pilkies should not be punished as they are fully aware of the standards required, but in the majority of similar cases I am aware of, the companies concerned have had a percentage of their "O" licenses withdrawn leaving them with a smaller fleet until they get their act together and rethink their maintenance problems.
- - - and a little bit of hope for those unfortunate drivers, What normally happens is that they will "sell out" to another relative or trusted friend very cheaply who will apply and get some "O" licenses (not in any great quantity) and the end result is that come August, Pilkies will still be seen on the roads with the same management team but knowing they will be watched by the Ministry, will be hyper-sensitive to the condition of their PCV's.
I am sorry for the loss of jobs that the closure of Pilkingtons will cause but that is all. Of all the bus companies in the area I have found them to be the most reckless, rude, inconsiderate and down right dangerous on the road. If they maintain their buses like they drive it no wonder they have been banned. Having been cut up and given the v on more than one occasion by Pilky drivers ( without provocation ) and told to **** *** by the nice gentleman who answered the telephone when i rang to complain I am happy to say good riddance on behalf of many people in Hyndburn.
Busman sounds like he knows what he's talking about. What's an O licence?
The only times I have ever seen a bus driver behave in a possibly offensive manner is when some idiotic car driver overtakes them when they have already indicated to pull out, or forgets that if you can't see the bus mirrors then the bus driver can't see you.
They are human beings, not automatons.
My sympathy is with the Pilkington drivers. (not necessarily with the bosses) I think it was Willow who said that if these buses had actually been a danger to passengers there is no way they would still be operating until the end of a particular contract especially where children are concerned as I believe this is a schools contract they have been permitted to complete.
It seems that the bosses had been told once before to rectify certain things and simply hadn't brought the vehicles up to scratch. Perhaps they thought as the problems weren't severe it didn't matter. Now they know differently.
It could well be that another family member may have an unrevoked licence - someone not presently using it to operate this service. I was told something to the effect that an uncle may be in line to purchase some of the fleet.
The only times I have ever seen a bus driver behave in a possibly offensive manner is when some idiotic car driver overtakes them when they have already indicated to pull out, or forgets that if you can't see the bus mirrors then the bus driver can't see you.
They are human beings, not automatons.
My sympathy is with the Pilkington drivers. (not necessarily with the bosses) I think it was Willow who said that if these buses had actually been a danger to passengers there is no way they would still be operating until the end of a particular contract especially where children are concerned as I believe this is a schools contract they have been permitted to complete.
It seems that the bosses had been told once before to rectify certain things and simply hadn't brought the vehicles up to scratch. Perhaps they thought as the problems weren't severe it didn't matter. Now they know differently.
It could well be that another family member may have an unrevoked licence - someone not presently using it to operate this service. I was told something to the effect that an uncle may be in line to purchase some of the fleet.
and told to **** *** by the nice gentleman who answered the telephone when i rang to complain I am happy to say good riddance on behalf of many people in Hyndburn.
That is totally out of order Perran, If what you say is true (and I do not disbelieve) then they (the management) have a total disregard for public services. Maybe this is the reason the Ministry were so hard on the company - - but please do not blame the drivers, I am sure that they must be pressurised into keeping with timetables, I experienced 4 months with a large bus company down south and if you were running late by 15 minutes, your lunch hour was reduced from 45 mins to 30 mins!! end of story! You still start the P.M. shift at the same time, How many workers would put up with that?
That is totally out of order Perran, If what you say is true (and I do not disbelieve) then they (the management) have a total disregard for public services. Maybe this is the reason the Ministry were so hard on the company - - but please do not blame the drivers, I am sure that they must be pressurised into keeping with timetables, I experienced 4 months with a large bus company down south and if you were running late by 15 minutes, your lunch hour was reduced from 45 mins to 30 mins!! end of story! You still start the P.M. shift at the same time, How many workers would put up with that?
What about road works? Is any allowance made for the delays caused? Too many ruddy plastic cones on the roads round here at the mo.
Hi Gobsmacked,
An "O" license is short for Operators license and every PCV on the road should have one. (You will see it in the windscreen like a second tax disc) If an operator has 4 discs, they can only put onto the road 4 vehicles so a company that wants to expand must give a good account of itself before the Ministry grants more "O" licenses to them. Likewise, If they do not fulfill the conditions set by the Ministry, they will have the number of licenses reduced.
An "O" license is short for Operators license and every PCV on the road should have one. (You will see it in the windscreen like a second tax disc) If an operator has 4 discs, they can only put onto the road 4 vehicles so a company that wants to expand must give a good account of itself before the Ministry grants more "O" licenses to them. Likewise, If they do not fulfill the conditions set by the Ministry, they will have the number of licenses reduced.