Pineapple pub?

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Was talking to my 81 yr old cousin just now and she said one of her grandparents used to run the Pineapple pub in Accy. She would like to know where it was, thinks it might have been in the Abbey Street/Manchester Road area.

Has anyone heard of this pub or does anyone know where it might have been?

Thanks

Sue
 
Was a pineapple in Blackburn Susie, seem to recall n accy landlady taking it in 60s, went oer once to see her, but can't remember were it was. was a lion house i think.
 
susie123 said:
Was talking to my 81 yr old cousin just now and she said one of her grandparents used to run the Pineapple pub in Accy. She would like to know where it was, thinks it might have been in the Abbey Street/Manchester Road area.

Has anyone heard of this pub or does anyone know where it might have been?

Thanks

Sue
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The Pine Apple Inn was 4&6 Elephant St, Accrington. Ann Mile was the landlady in 1891.

Retlaw.
 
Retlaw said:
The Pine Apple Inn was 4&6 Elephant St, Accrington. Ann Mile was the landlady in 1891.

Retlaw.
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What a coincidence,twas Eileen the landlady of the Welcome Inn on Elephant St, took the Pineapple in Blackburn, The Welcome wouldn't be the same Spot as the Accy Pineapple was walter?:confused:
 
cashman said:
What a coincidence,twas Eileen the landlady of the Welcome Inn on Elephant St, took the Pineapple in Blackburn, The Welcome wouldn't be the same Spot as the Accy Pineapple was walter?:confused:
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Have been away too long! Please can someone remind me where Elephant street is?
 
Thank you Walter for the info on the pub and thanks Margaret for pointing me to the Elephant street thread. What a helpful lot you are on Acccyweb!

I knew the name but couldn't place the street but if it was near Plantation St/Birtwistle St I must have walked past it hundreds of times in the 50s on my way to/from Central Prep school in Hargreaves St from the hospital area.

Sadly I couldn't see the pic associated with that thread but am speculating as Cashy did as to whether the Welcome Inn used to be the Pineapple.
 
susie123 said:
Thank you Walter for the info on the pub and thanks Margaret for pointing me to the Elephant street thread. What a helpful lot you are on Acccyweb!

I knew the name but couldn't place the street but if it was near Plantation St/Birtwistle St I must have walked past it hundreds of times in the 50s on my way to/from Central Prep school in Hargreaves St from the hospital area.

Sadly I couldn't see the pic associated with that thread but am speculating as Cashy did as to whether the Welcome Inn used to be the Pineapple.
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If yeh went up Plantation St susie, Elephant St was on the right hand side, It actually ran just 1 block, From Plantation St to Birtwistle St.;) if they were the same pubs in same place, What a coincidence the landlady goin to the blackburn one.
 
cashman said:
If yeh went up Plantation St susie, Elephant St was on the right hand side, It actually ran just 1 block, From Plantation St to Birtwistle St.;) if they were the same pubs in same place, What a coincidence the landlady goin to the blackburn one.
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I do vaguely remember it being a very short street, which lends support to the idea that there was only one pub, with different names at different times.
 
susie123 said:
I do vaguely remember it being a very short street, which lends support to the idea that there was only one pub, with different names at different times.
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Yeh but on the other thread someone says the welcome was no7, Yet walters info says pineapple was 4-6, which suggests opposite side of street?:confused:
 
cashman said:
Yeh but on the other thread someone says the welcome was no7, Yet walters info says pineapple was 4-6, which suggests opposite side of street?:confused:
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That is true Cashy, amazing how many pubs there must have been way back :thepint:
 
My cousin will be pleased to have located the Pineapple at least.

Her maiden surname was Tattersall and on Rootsweb I found mention of a John Tattersall living in Elephant street, don't know what number, at the 1851 census, not a publican but a calico printer. He was born in 1820 so would be quite a few generations before my cousin who was born in 1930. Will have to research this further.

*JOHN2 TATTERSALL (*JOHN1)1 was born September 18, 1820 in
Accrington, Lancs. England1. He married *ELLEN WELCH January 01, 1845
in St. James Parish, Accrington, Lancs. England, daughter of THOMAS
WELCH. She was born Abt. 1822 in Accrington, Lancs. England1.

Notes for *JOHN TATTERSALL:
Address: Elephant Street, New Accrington, Lanc., England on the 1851
Census, Age given as 30 years old.



More About *JOHN TATTERSALL:
Baptism: November 19, 1820, St. James Parish, Accrington, Lancs. England
Occupation: Calico Printer on 1851 census. Listed as printer prior to
1854, after 1857 listed as labourer.
Residence: Born at New Row, Accrington
 
cashman said:
What a coincidence,twas Eileen the landlady of the Welcome Inn on Elephant St, took the Pineapple in Blackburn, The Welcome wouldn't be the same Spot as the Accy Pineapple was walter?:confused:
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The Welcome was 7&9 Elephant St, across the street, Thomas Kenyon was the Landlord in 1891
 
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cashman said:
Was a pineapple in Blackburn Susie, seem to recall n accy landlady taking it in 60s, went oer once to see her, but can't remember were it was. was a lion house i think.
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Ya cashy used to go in there with my mate who lived round the corner, the pub was on Johnson Street
 
susie123 said:
That is true Cashy, amazing how many pubs there must have been way back :thepint:
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Quite a lot.
In the block staring at Adelaide St, to Plantation St, from Abbey St, to Cobham Rd.
There were the 12 places to get plastered.
Swan Inn Abbey St,
Kings Arms Lee St,
Gardeners Arms Chapel St,
Oak Tree Inn Abbey St,
Red Lion Abbey St,
Peels Arms Birtwistle St,
Pine Apple Elephant St,
Prince of Wales Higher Pitt St,
Royal Oak Plantation St,
St Ledger Plantation St,
Weavers Arms Abbey St.
Welcome Inn Elephant St,
Two church's Wesley & New Jerusalem, more supped than prayed.

Retlaw.
 
I have no reference books to assist me, but have not heard of the Peel's Arms on Birtwistle St. , where there was a Colliers Arms at one time.(certainly 1951) Perhaps name changes occured, though I doubt it, as they were not common in the 19th century. This reinforces my thought that a detailed study is required of Accrington pub names & locations. There was a Peel Arms on Burnley Rd at its junction with Whalley d.
 
This is getting silly! just found this on a website about closed pubs Elephant Inn, Accrington - another lost pub

The Elephant Inn was situated on Elephant Street. Closed in 1966 due to its location in a redevelopment area.
Source: Max Taylor

Now either there were three pubs on Elephant Street or this is one of the other two by another name - or Max Taylor who submitted this is totally mistaken. The website also mentions the Welcome Inn with no closure date listed, but not the Pineapple.

According to a listing in the London Gazette for 1973 copied below, Elephant Street was only 150 feet long. Three pubs in that length would not be bad going!

Bob you might find the lost pubs site useful to check your thoughts in your last post.

ACCRINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL
Notice of applications to stop up certain highways under
section 108 and the 12th Schedule to the Highways
Act 1959.

Application I
Those parts of the highway known as Higher Pitt Street,
Accrington, the one 162 feet and the other 102 feet in
length ex-tending respectively from Plantation Street to
Birtwistle Street and from Higher Pitt Street aforesaid to
the common yard formerly serving the dwelling houses 13-
27 Birtwistle Street shown on the said plan and coloured
green thereon.
Application II
The highway known as Elephant Street, Accrington,
150 feet in length extending from Plantation Street to
Birtwistle Street shown on the said plan and coloured
yellow thereon.
Application III
The highway or back street lying behind Elephant Street
and Law Street 147 feet in length extending from Plantation
Street to Birtwistle Street shown on the said plan
and coloured blue thereon.
Application IV
(a) The highway known as Law Street, Accrington, 144
feet in length extending from Plantation Street to
Birtwistle Street shown on the said plan and coloured
red thereon ;
(&) The highway known as Agnes Street, Accringtpn,
extending from Law Street in a north-easterly direction
for a distance of 72 feet shown on the said plan
and also coloured red thereon ;
(c) The highway or back street lying behind Law Street
98 feet in length and extending from Plantation Street
ito Agnes Street shown on the said plan and also
coloured red thereon.
Dated 14th February 1973.
 
My cousiin was pleased that I had located the Pineapple for her and told me a bit more about the family. It was her great grandfather who had the pub, she thinks he was called John, but it would have been later than the John Tattersall who was living in Elephant street in 1851, see post 12. That John had six sons one of whom might have been publican John's father.

According to my cousin's father the publican ran off with the takings and ended up in St Louis USA. His wife Alice had two letters from him which were found among her things when she died. One was written on the ship, the other from St Louis. She never saw him again and was left with two children, a boy of 12 and a girl of ten. The boy Robert was married in 1890 and born late 1860s so the publican's flight to America must have been about late 1870s/1880.

Fascinating, if true, but you never know with these family stories!
 
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