will only benefit visitors n passing motorists though surely.
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will only benefit visitors n passing motorists though surely.
Misery guts ... think it will be a lovely feature .. might as well be a clock and be useful to some at least ...
Good for who ?
For the town Lancsdave. I think getting rid of the current overcrowded, added and patched up, dangerous to negotiate one we have got now, is a good move. They are offering a state of the art bus station which will be far more visitor friendly and still within striking distance of the shops.
Also, I love the idea of a civic square to replace the old one ... think this will encourage more people to go into this area besides the passing pedestrian traffic going for the bus. Even you, where your stall is, must admit is a very dark oppressive, carbon emissions filled little corridor which isn't pleasant to walk along. Will be so much nicer when it is more open and light. I think it will only increase visitors to your business.
Now, why do you think the bus station should stay where it is then ?
We need a purpose built bus station. Peel St was never a bus station. Peel St is just a street that happened to have stops on it.
And there is a difference between what we have now in my opinion, and a proper bus station. It's also got to be in the right place of course.
And there is a difference between what we have now in my opinion, and a proper bus station. It's also got to be in the right place of course.
He likes watching young ladies in short skirts bending over to take their babies out of the pram before getting on the bus
Crawshaw Street is hardly ideal for the elderly or people with mobility problems, it is a fair walk in these circumstances.
Hardly Bernie... can't get much closer to the Arndale, wouldn't think more than 100 metres at a guess, and if they wish to visit the market, (not all do) is easily linked and short distance ...
We are a very small centre and don't have to walk very far to get to any of the shops. If you consider where bus stations at Burnley and Blackburn are ... then visitors have much further to walk.
But the buses stop outside both Blackburn and Burnley markets more or less, are there going to be stops nearer to our market?
Possibly Bernie .. certainly in the regeneration plan looks like Blackburn Road will be made more accessable and converted into 2-way traffic shared space (in front of Town Hall) .. not sure if the buses will still be running across there though, but blimey ! how much closer do you want buses to be than Crawshaw Street. Still feel only a short distance to the market. I don't think this distance argument holds any clout at all.
It might seem a short distance to us who are physically ok to get about but as I said the elderly and people with limited mobility might find it a struggle to carry shopping that far.
How far will a disabled shopper walk whilst going around town though Bernie... a lot further than the hop from Crawshaw Street to the shops. You can argue that it will be nearer the Arndale if that is shoppers' preference. What happens when they go home and get to their bus stop ... surely will have much further to walk with heavy shopping ?... buses aren't door-to-door.
I think the civil square will also open better pedestrian flow to Little Blackburn Road, Peel Street, Infant Street, and any shops on the other side of the square. Certainly, will not be put off by all the buses up and down Peel Street ... 'tis a nightmare crossing there.
I think the civil square will also open better pedestrian flow to Little Blackburn Road, Peel Street, Infant Street, and any shops on the other side of the square. Certainly, will not be put off by all the buses up and down Peel Street ... 'tis a nightmare crossing there.
One word ..... footfall
He likes watching young ladies in short skirts bending over to take their babies out of the pram before getting on the bus
They don't have all have babies or prams
One word ..... footfall
Ah well, I have only expressed an opinion on this project, and still feel with the introduction of the civic square, you would see lots more footfall. How lovely would this be to linger and watch any events which, hopefully, will be there :-
Ignore the cherry blossom, would only happen in May ... LOL. We cannot miss this opportunity of a new bus station, as would provide an excellent and more pleasant point of arrival to any visitors :-
http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/enviro...xtra/Accrington_ Bus_ Station _2_ summary.pdf
I know, I know ... at it again ..
11/09/0312 Erection of replacement single storey Former Cliffe Brickworks off 20/07/2009
Aviary/Bird Hospital (Resubmission Cliffe Lane Great Harwood
11/08/0358)
Mr Peter Wall
Is a rebsubmission, turned down due to green belt and laying of hard surface, building and car parking affecting the appearance and visually intrusive outlook. Aaah . bird hospital.
11/09/0317 Full : Change of use of Public House to 181 Blackburn Road 22/07/2009
Retail Shop with living accommodation, Accrington BB5 0AF
installation of shop front, siting of new
entrance door and erection of single storey
kitchen extension at rear
Mrs M Masood
Which pub was this ?
11/09/0319 Erection of 60 metre high meteorogical mast Land on Oswaldtwistle Moor 22/07/2009
for up to a 36 months period Oswaldtwistle
Energiekontor UK Ltd
Eeew hek, lots of objections coming through already.
11/09/0311 Incorporation of land into residential Land to rear of Blossom 17/07/2009
curtilages of 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, Avenue Oswaldtwistle
20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32 and 34 Blossom Accrington BB5 0FD
Avenue and erection of boundary fencing
The Residents of
Resident of ?
11/09/0295 Change of use from Snooker Club to Use Class Elite Snooker Club Jacob 09/07/2009
D1 non residential education and training Street Accrington BB5 1HU
centre including reinstatement of built up
window openings, replacement of roof
structures and first floor extension to
existing garage with link to main building
to form teaching block (Total 2082m2)
North Lancs Training Group
Another one bites the dust.
2
At paragraph 15 the Inspector concludes “I have found the Council’s decision
to set aside the views of the previous Inspector, and its failure to provide
evidence to back up its decision, to be unreasonable. I consider that together
these actions have resulted in abortive work leading to unnecessary cost, and
I conclude that a full award of costs be made”
The appellant has now submitted a claim for a full award of costs and this is
for £1950. This has been checked and is in the process of being paid. This
has implications for the Planning service as there is no specific budget for
dealing with such matters.
Whilst the Planning Committee is fully entitled to make decisions that are
contrary to officer recommendation members are asked to note that costs will
likely be awarded in the event that the comments of previous Inspectors are
not fully taken into account as part of the decision making process. Given that
applicants can now apply for costs for any type of planning appeal (written
representations, hearings and Inquiries) it is imperative that decisions are
robust, sound and backed up by policies and above all that decision making is
reasonable.
Looks like the Planning Committe got their financial hands slapped here.
Without going into too much detail .. was to do with not making a decision in time and informing the applicant, therefore causing him costs due to the hold up. Was Northlands, Park Road, Great Harwood re. drive and access.
11/09/0312 Erection of replacement single storey Former Cliffe Brickworks off 20/07/2009
Aviary/Bird Hospital (Resubmission Cliffe Lane Great Harwood
11/08/0358)
Mr Peter Wall
Is a rebsubmission, turned down due to green belt and laying of hard surface, building and car parking affecting the appearance and visually intrusive outlook. Aaah . bird hospital.
11/09/0317 Full : Change of use of Public House to 181 Blackburn Road 22/07/2009
Retail Shop with living accommodation, Accrington BB5 0AF
installation of shop front, siting of new
entrance door and erection of single storey
kitchen extension at rear
Mrs M Masood
Which pub was this ?
11/09/0319 Erection of 60 metre high meteorogical mast Land on Oswaldtwistle Moor 22/07/2009
for up to a 36 months period Oswaldtwistle
Energiekontor UK Ltd
Eeew hek, lots of objections coming through already.
11/09/0311 Incorporation of land into residential Land to rear of Blossom 17/07/2009
curtilages of 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, Avenue Oswaldtwistle
20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32 and 34 Blossom Accrington BB5 0FD
Avenue and erection of boundary fencing
The Residents of
Resident of ?
11/09/0295 Change of use from Snooker Club to Use Class Elite Snooker Club Jacob 09/07/2009
D1 non residential education and training Street Accrington BB5 1HU
centre including reinstatement of built up
window openings, replacement of roof
structures and first floor extension to
existing garage with link to main building
to form teaching block (Total 2082m2)
North Lancs Training Group
Another one bites the dust.
2
At paragraph 15 the Inspector concludes “I have found the Council’s decision
to set aside the views of the previous Inspector, and its failure to provide
evidence to back up its decision, to be unreasonable. I consider that together
these actions have resulted in abortive work leading to unnecessary cost, and
I conclude that a full award of costs be made”
The appellant has now submitted a claim for a full award of costs and this is
for £1950. This has been checked and is in the process of being paid. This
has implications for the Planning service as there is no specific budget for
dealing with such matters.
Whilst the Planning Committee is fully entitled to make decisions that are
contrary to officer recommendation members are asked to note that costs will
likely be awarded in the event that the comments of previous Inspectors are
not fully taken into account as part of the decision making process. Given that
applicants can now apply for costs for any type of planning appeal (written
representations, hearings and Inquiries) it is imperative that decisions are
robust, sound and backed up by policies and above all that decision making is
reasonable.
Looks like the Planning Committe got their financial hands slapped here.
Without going into too much detail .. was to do with not making a decision in time and informing the applicant, therefore causing him costs due to the hold up. Was Northlands, Park Road, Great Harwood re. drive and access.
The pub was The Oak Tree Kate
The pub was The Oak Tree Kate
just curious , (181 Blackburn Rd. ) where was the border between Accy and Church , seems a high number for being so near to the border or am I getting 2 Oak Trees on the same road mixed up ?
thanks
just curious , (181 Blackburn Rd. ) where was the border between Accy and Church , seems a high number for being so near to the border or am I getting 2 Oak Trees on the same road mixed up ?
thanks
See what you mean Steeljack ... there is an Oak Tree Inn pub (that was maybe) listed at 438, Blackburn Road, Accrington. This is probably almost in Church. The boundary is somewhere between Tanpits Road and Henry Street junctions. You will have to work out whether that was Church .. not good at the pubs, particularly on Blackburn Road.
181, Blackburn Road is probably on the right going into Accrington ... maybe not long before you get to the viaduct. ?
Bernie ? Do you think you got it wrong, and maybe the Globe or summat ? Or was there 2 Oak Trees ?
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Talking about Blackburn Road ... noted that an appeal was dismissed for a Hot Food takeaway . maybe the council care about the safety on Blackburn Road after all ..
RECENT APPEAL DECISION
Purpose of Report
The attached report advises members of recent appeal decision.
RECOMMENDED that:
Members note the report.
Planning Application 11/08/0350
Change of use from offices to hot food takeaway with office
accommodation above
203 Blackburn Road, Accrington, BB5 OAF
Officer Recommendation: Refusal
Delegated Decision
Planning appeal dismissed.
1 This appeal was dealt with by written representations and was
dismissed on 22nd June 2009
2 The Inspector concluded that the “proposed development would
materially reduce highway safety on Blackburn Road”.
RECENT APPEAL DECISION
Purpose of Report
The attached report advises members of recent appeal decision.
RECOMMENDED that:
Members note the report.
Planning Application 11/08/0350
Change of use from offices to hot food takeaway with office
accommodation above
203 Blackburn Road, Accrington, BB5 OAF
Officer Recommendation: Refusal
Delegated Decision
Planning appeal dismissed.
1 This appeal was dealt with by written representations and was
dismissed on 22nd June 2009
2 The Inspector concluded that the “proposed development would
materially reduce highway safety on Blackburn Road”.
Quite possibly is the wrong address for the Oak Tree Kate, just noticed they had changed the front the other week and assumed it was there when I read your post. The only other place I can think of where they have changed the front is the Miners Club which is now a motor accessory place. Could that be the one in your post?