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[stanerlee]

You might not be bothered but a statement released like that could and would upset many Catholic people.
you're implying that catholics haven't got a mind of their own, i can't see how it can hurt to point out the facts.
if your'e granny was terminal wouldn't you like to know

 

[slinky]

You might not be bothered but a statement released like that could and would upset many Catholic people

It's gonna happen one day though............the only thing that is 100% hereditary is death.

 

[fireman]

We are all as bad as the media discussing this mans passing before he actually does . Leave him in peace to pass on nayurally without all this speculation.

 

[stanerlee]

We don't get told that other people are on their way out do we? We are usually informed when they are ill and eventually when they have passed away. In some cases we don't even realise famous people were ill until they've pegged it. I think it would sound a bit like hovering vultures to announce to the media that someone is on their last legs.

willow you are right, but we did'nt bring the story to the media. but now it's here the truth would be nice.

 

[Tinkerbelle]

You might not be bothered but a statement released like that could and would upset many Catholic people.
you're implying that catholics haven't got a mind of their own, i can't see how it can hurt to point out the facts.
if your'e granny was terminal wouldn't you like to know

My Nan was terminally ill with cancer and even after she had slipped into coma i thought she would recover!! It's called denial!!!

 

[WillowTheWhisp]

Well maybe they are keeping us as informed as they can with the information they have from the doctors. I mean we know he's had a tracheotomy and we know he wasn't able to speak but we do know he had a "serene" night.

It sounds like the sort of thing hospitals tell you about your own loved ones:

"How is he?"
"Comfortable, well as can be expected."

I remember the late Queen Mother saying that her interpretation of the word "comfortable" and the hospital's were very far removed.

 

[stanerlee]

people deal with grief in different ways. but facts are facts and the vatican bury these facts. not just about this but about loads of issues.

 

[WillowTheWhisp]

Like the 3rd secret of Fatima?

 

[slinky]

Well maybe they are keeping us as informed as they can with the information they have from the doctors. I mean we know he's had a tracheotomy and we know he wasn't able to speak but we do know he had a "serene" night.

It sounds like the sort of thing hospitals tell you about your own loved ones:

"How is he?"
"Comfortable, well as can be expected."

I remember the late Queen Mother saying that her interpretation of the word "comfortable" and the hospital's were very far removed.

Nurses are usually almost sure when someone is dying, it is just NOT good practise to actually say this to the family of the DYING person, because above all until that person is pronounced dead no-one knows for sure. I agree with the queen on this one.

 

[stanerlee]

Like the 3rd secret of Fatima?
please expand, i'm not aware of this one

 

[Doug]

But wouldn't we still be criticising the Vatican if they released a statement saying the Pope won't be with us long?

I think we must be realistic and maintain our senses in this matter. This gentleman in indeed a lovely man and deserves to die with the grace of his stature and with dignity. He may himself wish to maintain oversight of his church until the end and he deserve credit for that, but to believe no matter how religious an individual maybe that this man will survive the spring let alone the year is stretching it. I have no doubt that the Vatican as set in motion it’s great wheels and the call among the bishops to identify their candidates for the next incumbent to the holy order.

This man is dieing of that their can be no uncertainty, what should now happen is that this gentle man’s life should be celebrated for like others have already said there is something worth celebrating irrespective of your religion. I myself was born into the Church of England and believe in god and an afterlife. I also have a bent towards witchcraft but maintain a healthy respect, understand and care toward all the worlds’ religions. Let this man rest in the knowledge that he holds something lost not only on his Church but on many previous Popes. And that is the love and respect of many peoples and religions throughout the world.

 

[Tinkerbelle]

I think we must be realistic and maintain our senses in this matter. This gentleman in indeed a lovely man and deserves to die with the grace of his stature and with dignity.

I totally agree with you Doug

 

[slinky]

I think we must be realistic and maintain our senses in this matter. This gentleman in indeed a lovely man and deserves to die with the grace of his stature and with dignity. He may himself wish to maintain oversight of his church until the end and he deserve credit for that, but to believe no matter how religious an individual maybe that this man will survive the spring let alone the year is stretching it. I have no doubt that the Vatican as set in motion it’s great wheels and the call among the bishops to identify their candidates for the next incumbent to the holy order.

This man is dieing of that their can be no uncertainty, what should now happen is that this gentle man’s life should be celebrated for like others have already said there is something worth celebrating irrespective of your religion. I myself was born into the Church of England and believe in god and an afterlife. I also have a bent towards witchcraft but maintain a healthy respect, understand and care toward all the worlds’ religions. Let this man rest in the knowledge that he holds something lost not only on his Church but on many previous Popes. And that is the love and respect of many peoples and religions throughout the world.

Doug would you like TONY BLAIRS job because I'LL vote for you!!

 

[WillowTheWhisp]

I'll second that.

 

[Tinkerbelle]

And my vote too Doug

 

[WillowTheWhisp]

lol I was actually seconding Tinkerbelle's post ther Doug, not suggesting that you put yourself up for PM.

 

[stanerlee]

i'll third it.
like i said earier the man done good in ww2 and saved a few lives

 

[Doug]

Doug would you like TONY BLAIRS job because I'LL vote for you!!

Regretfully I must decline with grace; I’m too much of an irritant to be anything other than myself. But thank you anyway. If I had not being talking to such serine ladies I’d had just said Bo**ocks.

 

[garinda]

l hope he's made comfortable too, like l said l was shocked seeing him on the news last night, obviously very ill, but made/ helped to perform his duties. He may have done good work as a preist in WW2, but he's dealt tragically with AIDS. His denial of advice as led to thousands of death, & millions living with HIV in Africa. Like l said yesterday, the Vatican issued a statement in the 80's saying if you must use a condon it had to have a hole in it!

 

[Acrylic-bob]

>> I have no doubt that the Vatican as set in motion it’s great wheels and the call among the bishops to identify their candidates for the next incumbent to the holy order.<<

Point of order there Doug. The Pope is chosen by God, acting through the Holy Spirit, who inspires the choice of the College of Cardinals sitting in Conclave. The Bishops have no say in the matter. Canvassing for the Papacy, in the way that one would if one were seeking political office, is a mortal sin and is forbidden . Theoretically, any catholic man can be elected Pope, though it is more usual to select a Cardinal-Priest.