How long before this gains momentum ?
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Protest against foreign workers
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Not long I hope dave, but of course our hands are tied by Europe, good old Tony made sure of that
the protest i can agree with, but for me any protest should be taken to the "Houses of Parliment" nowhere else, ya can't blame the intake of foreign workers fer doing what these dickheads allow.
You'd be better in Brussels! We need to seriously rethink who we want deciding our laws. An elected house, accountable to us at every general election, or the EU, whom has entirely unelected, unaccountable decision makers. All we get to vote on is our European Member of Parliament, but don't be fooled, its nothing like our parliament, they are only allowed to vote on legislation, not actually initiate it, no, initiating legislation is for the unelected powers that be. For this reason, when we vote at European elections, we cannot even vote for a manifesto, because the people we vote for don't get a say!
I would fully support the strikers: while their are jobs in the UK they should be filled by any relevantly skilled (or trainable) unemployed
To take no action would just result in more job losses somewhere along the ling. It is not good enough for the company to say that the new jobs will not result in redundancies. People are being mad unemployed all the time at the moment and the only way to keep the economy buoyant is bu utilizing every possible vacancy for those who are indigenous to the country.
someone suggested taking the protest to the Houses of Parliament - hang on a minute they are the goons who got us in this mess in the first place!!!!!!
To take no action would just result in more job losses somewhere along the ling. It is not good enough for the company to say that the new jobs will not result in redundancies. People are being mad unemployed all the time at the moment and the only way to keep the economy buoyant is bu utilizing every possible vacancy for those who are indigenous to the country.
someone suggested taking the protest to the Houses of Parliament - hang on a minute they are the goons who got us in this mess in the first place!!!!!!
Is this the one that has got a ship acting as a floating hotel for the foreign workers? It is only the other week that GB said he was going to protect jobs for British workers and now this happens. I despair I really do.
fair point, but in a recession brussels is a bit of a cash stretcher.
...or, then again, it could be Strasbourg, as the European parliament moves there, lock, stock and barrel, for one week every month at huge expense, so as not to hurt the feelings of the French. Incidentally, noble sentiments, Andrewb. I wonder how the Tories are going to implement this "serious rethink" you speak of? Perhaps we should ask your new front bencher, Ken Clarke?
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i find it difficult to get realy upset about foreign workers coming here to get jobs because if people left school willing to work and not go straight on the dole then the jobs wouldnt have been tehere for the taking in the first place
what i do get annoyed at though is now that jobs are becoming more scarce then foreign workres should be limited and nationals who are willing to work be given the few jobs that are available then when things pick up allow foreign workers back to fill the gaps left by the lazy sods that go from school straight to benefits
aslo on a slightly related topic regarding foreign workers and why they shoudlnt be used especially in a recession is that if Mr Whoyanichabollocof cames over from poland our govenment will pay child benefit to his kids back in poland
i may be way off but it seems to me that if you employ Mr Whoyanichabollocof you put a UK man or woman on benefits and also pay for his kids back in Poland and due to Mr Whoyanichabollocof working for less money than the UK person pays less tax and teh govenment ends up paying him out 10x more than what he pays into the system
what i do get annoyed at though is now that jobs are becoming more scarce then foreign workres should be limited and nationals who are willing to work be given the few jobs that are available then when things pick up allow foreign workers back to fill the gaps left by the lazy sods that go from school straight to benefits
aslo on a slightly related topic regarding foreign workers and why they shoudlnt be used especially in a recession is that if Mr Whoyanichabollocof cames over from poland our govenment will pay child benefit to his kids back in poland
i may be way off but it seems to me that if you employ Mr Whoyanichabollocof you put a UK man or woman on benefits and also pay for his kids back in Poland and due to Mr Whoyanichabollocof working for less money than the UK person pays less tax and teh govenment ends up paying him out 10x more than what he pays into the system
i too support the aim, not the method, n Parliment got us in it no doubt, but protesters at immingham have no chance of changing minds in brussels, they may have the will, but sure aint got the way.
It is amazing what public protests can do - especially if the popularity polls of politicians start to fall.i too support the aim, not the method, n Parliment got us in it no doubt, but protesters at immingham have no chance of changing minds in brussels, they may have the will, but sure aint got the way.
And it is always better to do something than sit back saying that nothing can be done
agreed n media coverage would be much wider i think if parliment was the target.
I find it really easy to be annoyed at the job stealing eastern europeans and let them know every single day, my fellow English people haven't got it in them to do anything about it except talk, don't make them welcome because tomorrow it could be your job their taking.
At the end of the day, in todays climate, jobs are seen as the goverments responsibility, and rightly so too in my opinion
thats were folk are being conned, it is not their responsibility for the foreign workers, that can only be eradicated IF government can either change opinion in "Brussels" or come out of the common market n re-claim responsibility.
I find it really easy to be annoyed at the job stealing eastern europeans and let them know every single day, my fellow English people haven't got it in them to do anything about it except talk, don't make them welcome because tomorrow it could be your job their taking.
accrington alone has a huge buisness called express gifts that mainly employees foreigners because the lazy arsed sods that doss around town all day cant be bothered to get a job
if it truely was a case of foreigners taking jobs away from UK citizens then yes i would be annoyed but lets be honest here the majority of jobs foreigners get are simply there because a lot of people would rather work up an asbo rather than a wage
i think its safe to say most people could name quite a lot of people who havnt lifted a finger working since leaving school so if they dont want the jobs then its no wonder workers are brought in from other countries
perhaps we should adopt americas take on benefits where you get 6 months payout from the govenment then your own then there wouldnt be jobs for foreigners to take
If the job cannot be filled by a resident of that country then it would be up to the powers that be to decide if an overseas employee was the answer. So personally I feel British workers should NOT be employed instead of a national from that country, which is NOT the case here in England.Are you saying that all British workers working abroad should be forced to come home or are you on a one way street?
We've all seen the lazy gets around town and I would force them to work for their benefits but there are English people who want to work but find they are losing out to cheaper labour from Eastern Europe and beyond, fact.
I am sick of reading this arguement for giving the jobs to foreign workers. I know quite a few people who did the job at Express Gifts every year. All they asked was that they got paid minimum wage and overtime rates when they worked overtime. Not everybody is entitled to top up money from DHSS so need to earn the minimum wage at the very least. Employers are laughing at British workers and foreign employees are draining the economy even more by not spending here but sending the bulk of their money home.