Re-generation

[MargaretR]

They acquired Slaidburn in the late 19th century-
Walk 2216 - Slaidburn Village Trail - Ribble Valley - Forest of Bowland AONB Lancashire - a detailed walk description from Walking Britain
extract-
"Slaidburn is unusual in that much of it is controlled by the King-Wilkinson family, which has owned most of the village since the late 19th century"

Since this landowning family wish to appear to have noble intentions - it is overdue for 'donation'.

 

[WillowTheWhisp]

Quote Chelmswood -"the law of adverse possesion we are required to use the site for 12 months prior to starting work and it would be for the first 12 month that we would require a volunteer."

Quote Chelmswood - "there is no recorded or traceable owner and this is the method employed in all of our other projects which has seen vast ammounts of land designated as public common land and donated to local communities"

They could change their mind about 'donation'

When I raised the subject of adverse possession in a phone call to quarry owners I was informed that 12 months is nowhere near long enough.

I'm sure it's all just misunderstandings here. I have already volunteered and I am certain it is all legitimate, and if not I can always pull out, so I will wait and see what happens.

As long as I dont get tied up into anything illegal then I am happy to help.

How can you be so certain that it's all legitimate? When asked for details of the charitable trust none were forthcoming. Neither Garinda nor I were able to trace any legitimate charity by the name of Chelmswood.

Several genuine legitimate questions have remained unanswered.

I do hope you don't get mixed up in any dodgy dealings.

 

[Chelmswood]

When I raised the subject of adverse possession in a phone call to quarry owners I was informed that 12 months is nowhere near long enough.



How can you be so certain that it's all legitimate? When asked for details of the charitable trust none were forthcoming. Neither Garinda nor I were able to trace any legitimate charity by the name of Chelmswood.

Several genuine legitimate questions have remained unanswered.

I do hope you don't get mixed up in any dodgy dealings.

I think you will find under British law after 12 months of uninterrupted occupation we can legally begin work, however the whole process takes upto 12 years for normal land and upto 20 for crown land.

 

[yerself]

Chelmswood still hasn't answered my question. Why have the people in Slaidburn (the ones I've spoken to) never heard of Chelmswood ? They had heard of the Knowlmere estate which has links to Accrington.

 

[blazey]

When I raised the subject of adverse possession in a phone call to quarry owners I was informed that 12 months is nowhere near long enough.



How can you be so certain that it's all legitimate? When asked for details of the charitable trust none were forthcoming. Neither Garinda nor I were able to trace any legitimate charity by the name of Chelmswood.

Several genuine legitimate questions have remained unanswered.

I do hope you don't get mixed up in any dodgy dealings.

I said the volunteering is legitimate. I can obviously refuse to participate in anything I think is illegal or not right. I'm not going to entangle myself to deeply into it initially anyway until I recieve a response from people I have contacted about it all and as a student who is taught by people who have particular specialist knowledge of land law, I will be able to refer to them before involving myself in anything that may be illegal.

I think he is referring to it as 'charity' though based on the concept of the volunteer work, it isn't like theyre asking for money or anything, just a helping hand? Its not that bad of an idea if it works out.

 

[yerself]

We have recently recieved an application concerning Hambledon quarry and Hambledon hill, and land at these sites which is currently diused and from photographs we have seen in a poor state.

Who did you receive the application from?

 

[Chelmswood]

Who did you receive the application from?

A resident of rising bridge, and for obvious reasons i am not going to reveal there name or details.

 

[lancsdave]

A resident of rising bridge, and for obvious reasons i am not going to reveal there name or details.

So basically if one resident in an area writes to you about a piece of land with unwanted activity on it you will do something about it ?

 

[yerself]

A resident of rising bridge

I wonder where this resident of Rising Bridge found about you ? No-one else seems to have heard of you, including King-Wilkinson's tenants in Slaidburn.

 

[Chelmswood]

So basically if one resident in an area writes to you about a piece of land with unwanted activity on it you will do something about it ?

No the area in question has a lot of history and importance in the community, however has fell into disrepair and become a hotspot for drug user etc

 

[lancsdave]

No the area in question has a lot of history and importance in the community, however has fell into disrepair and become a hotspot for drug user etc

Says who ? One resident of Rising Bridge ?

 

[Chelmswood]

Says who ? One resident of Rising Bridge ?

No, lancashire county councils Mario Maps software indicates the sites history and so do records held by Ordnance survey

 

[WillowTheWhisp]

I wonder where this resident of Rising Bridge found about you ? No-one else seems to have heard of you, including King-Wilkinson's tenants in Slaidburn.

I was wondering that too.

 

[cashman]

kept well out of this one, but gotta say, something just don't seem right here.

 

[BERNADETTE]

kept well out of this one, but gotta say, something just don't seem right here.

But our future lawyer thinks it is, perhaps we are all thick

 

[pipinfort]

all sounds a bit suspect to me.

 

[blazey]

But our future lawyer thinks it is, perhaps we are all thick

He asked for litter pickers and people to talk to walkers through the land they already own, so theres no reason to tie the volunteers up into the land they are trying to obtain.

My interest was the fact that there was something to do in the countryside, and he referred to Lancaster, which is where I am most of the time, and it was something to do. I didn't even see they were Chelmswood estate til AFTER i agreed to do it, and I'm still not even bothered.

I get the feeling that you are attacking everything he is saying without actually knowing whether it is or isnt a truthful proposition, and I think until you know, you should just leave him alone.

And you certainly shouldnt be starting on me just because I said I'd like to volunteer. I will give him the benefit of the doubt until I have found out whether its a real oppurtunity or just a waste of time, and I am trying to find out, but I am no closer to having proof than the rest of you, so give it a rest.

 

[BERNADETTE]

BlazeyI get the feeling that you are attacking everything he is saying without actually knowing whether it is or isnt a truthful proposition, and I think until you know, you should just leave him alone.

Could you please point out where I have attacked everything he has said in my one post on the thread!!!!

 

[WillowTheWhisp]

I am no closer to having proof than the rest of you

That's what is so odd. Not even you who have volunteered to work for them can find out any more than the rest of us. Now doesn't that strike you as being a little, well....................... odd?

 

[Gayle]

I still don't get this - it's already common land, there are footpaths on it and people can walk across it however they see fit. From what I understand this organisation is planning to block it off so that they can hold onto it for twelve months and then turn it into common land.

I just don't understand what the plan is, how it actually benefits anyone and why they are doing this?