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Re: Request for John Coleman's Resignation

porkchop said:
forget getting rid - what we need is a stronger coaching staff. when we had paul and andy our defence was a lot stronger. since theres no window for taking on staff how about a couple of player/coaches - ok they cant play till jan but their influence,training and postive action could get the team going. it worked last season.
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I think that's a key point - Coley's motivational & bonding skills are without question, but I wonder whether they might be missing some technical input with Paul & Andy going? You need both sides of this for teams to keep monving forward
 
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That was exactly my point about Ged on the Players out of Contract thread. Ok so maybe he didn't show any of his former ability when he played for us but his credentials are beyond question. We know he would come to the club and I think with his experience he would make a great addition to the coaching staff to pass on his knowledge of the game onto our young team.
 
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i agree john and jimmy are ideal for their passion but we have always done better with coaches who are more defensive minded. it also means we have a balanced staff which as resulted in 2 key players being involved with bigger teams. we will never be premiership or championship material, and attendances will never be massive with so many well supported teams near by, but if we have a strong backroom staff set up we can build a strong team which could handle the loss of a few influential plays. we cant pay silly money for players but nurture them and you have a league team for years to come.

so forget about big name (and big price) players or roofs and bars, lets get back to basics and show that accrington can produce something more than nori bricks !!!! lets have a "NORI TEAM"
 
Re: Request for John Coleman's Resignation

Redraine said:
I find it absolutely incredible that anyone should be seriously calling for Coley or Jimmy to be dismiissed - the same sort of bloody stupid knee-jerk reaction which actually occurs in the over-hyped Premiership whenever a team has a bad run. Coley always has, and always will have, to constantly re-invent the team given the operating conditions he has to work with. I think his (usually!) philosophical reaction to reverses is superb and his positive attitude to giving new players a stage to demonstrate their abilities is inspiring and shows a very mature and realistic approach.
Long may he reign!
It's not the playing side of the business which is lacking.
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A perfect summation, Redraine.
 
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If I recall rightly the announcer at Chester welcomed Stanley back as one of the greatest names in football.

He was right.

I get more Google Alerts on Stanley than I get on any other footy team subject.

Surely that gives the club a lot to build on.
 
Re: Request for John Coleman's Resignation

Haggis316 said:
If I recall rightly the announcer at Chester welcomed Stanley back as one of the greatest names in football.

He was right.

I get more Google Alerts on Stanley than I get on any other footy team subject.

Surely that gives the club a lot to build on.
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Yes, but can we turn those Google alerts into £'s, fans or points on the board?.................:D
 
Re: Request for John Coleman's Resignation

ukcowboy said:
Yes, but can we turn those Google alerts into £'s, fans or points on the board?.................:D
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That's both a challenge and an opportunity for the Club.

It tells us that there is a lot of interest in Stanley.

Even if it cannot in most cases be turned into people on seats there may be possibilities for branding and merchandising.

MUFC excel at this but what percentage of their worldwide fan base visit Old Trafford every year?
 
Re: Request for John Coleman's Resignation

Haggis316 said:
That's both a challenge and an opportunity for the Club.

It tells us that there is a lot of interest in Stanley.

Even if it cannot in most cases be turned into people on seats there may be possibilities for branding and merchandising.

MUFC excel at this but what percentage of their worldwide fan base visit Old Trafford every year?
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I've been saying this ever since I wrote an article about it called "Selling Stanley by the Pound" in the old "Barber's Pole" fanzine about 12-13 years ago.

Most clubs can only sell their merchandise to their fans. But, like MUFC, Stanley is almost an institution in English football - so much so, that even people outside their immediate fanbase will buy their merchandise, just to have a little piece of "one of football's most famous names".

The club was presented with a huge opportunity a few months ago when we enjoyed the sort of press and TV coverage that other small clubs can only dream about. "Accrington Puts The Smile Back On The Face of English Football" was one of the national daily headlines that summed up the general "feelgood" factor that the club's promotion engendered.

Accordingly, the club should have been ready to cash in on this with a wide and attractive range of "championship/return to the league/44 years and we're back" merchandise. Instead, we were offered two t-shirts which were stocked in such small quantities that they soon sold out, never to be restocked again. Meanwhile, the ebay unofficial sellers had a field day.

The club could have made a lot of money out of this, but that opportunity was a once-in-a-lifetime one and has gone now. However, Stanley should learn from their past mistakes by upgrading their merchandising operation with a greatly expanded range and high-profile advertising and marketing policies. With the attendances the way we are, we urgently need new sources of income and here's one that is staring the club in the face. Come on, Eric, Rob, do something now!
 
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100% agree mister harris... but havent we been here before? not to say it shouldnt be aired again.. but has it fallen on deaf ears?

1) Have you still got the article you could post again?

2) am I the only one who cringes everytime I see this thread come abck to the top.. the title makes me cringe :(
 
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KIPAX said:
100% agree mister harris... but havent we been here before? not to say it shouldnt be aired again.. but has it fallen on deaf ears?

1) Have you still got the article you could post again?

2) am I the only one who cringes everytime I see this thread come abck to the top.. the title makes me cringe :(
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1) Sadly, no, as it seems to have disappeared in one of Mrs H's springclean-ups. It was a bit out-of-date, anyway, as it talked about the merchandising operation being "a few shirts piled on a table in the corner of the social club" and, admittedly, we have advanced a little since then.

2) Totally agree, maybe I should have started a new thread.

Yes, you're right, though, it's not the first time I've banged on about this but, to me anyway, it's so blindingly obvious that the club is woefully ignoring a wonderful money-making opportunity. I can't understand why they can't see it. Right, I'll shut up about it now (for the moment).
 
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Re: Request for John Coleman's Resignation

Personally I think that nothing is going to change until there is a change of personel at the club. Everytime I mention this subject I get a stream of abuse back that I wonder if it's worth it. I am bored with the PMs saying the staff do a great job on limited resources because that does not wash with me anymore. The buck for the missed opportunity is the fault of Eric and Rob Heys and before any of you start about Eric this and Eric that I'm only talking about the merchandising part of the club. IMHO we have members of this message board who could have done a better job and brought a hell of a lot more money in to club, rant over.
 
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Bagpuss.. how come just about every post you make is slagging off the club or attacking the club... You seem very bitter
 
Although Bagpuss has put the facts in a blunt form, he's not wide of the truth in my opinion. I don't doubt the commitment of staff at the club, but elements of the commercial side are woeful. I admit that the club is understaffed compared to other League clubs and i have some understanding why that is the case, but opportunities are being missing on a regular basis and there is a real need for the professional element of the club to permeate through all the ranks.

I've said this before, but we have a League 2 team and a Conference North club.
 
I dont think this is a negative thing - look on the flip side of it and you discover that for the last four years we have consistently and successfully punched above our weight :) maybe its time we put some weight on though
 
I agree.. I dont think many would dissagree... I wasnt suggesting he was wrong.. just wondering why every post had to be slagging the club off.. maybe if he slipped in a couple of nicey nicey posts here and there :)
 
I agree JC is the right man for the job, what i do not understand is why he is not playing some of the new signings, we have put Baines out on loan,why if he is not good enough then why did we sign him, my concern is that we will lose good quality players and 6 months down the road they will be performing for another club, our loss.:confused:
 
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