Respect

you have to EARN respect to GAIN it.
maybe if the conduct of police officers wasnt so apalling younger people would hold them in higher esteem.
maybe.
 
When I was young I wasn't scared of a policeman... I knew he was there to protect me......unless of course I did something that was wrong......then I would be scared. I suppose it is to do with consequences......and understanding that you take the consequences for what you do.....but Hey if you think it is alright to have anarchic youth.......I am afraid you will be living with it and sorting it out for much longer than I will.
 
Maybe if some of the youth weren't so appalling then the police would be better too.......it is like trying to decide which came first...the chicken or the egg.
 
How many times have we both voted under that illusion Margaret? We can only hope to change British Politics by popular opinion. We complain, but to the wrong people. How many times’s do we go to the local surgery to protest, how many times do we question openly the decisions made in our name. How often do we get off our backsides?

Shakey, our local bobby hit me more than once, but I was never frightened or in fear of the man. I showed him respect and respect to my elders even when I was old enough to hit back.
 
im sure that the conduct of police officers was a lot more efficent when you were young. i am making the point that police officers should receive better training as to how to deal with situations involving "anarchaic youths"; so such troublemakers would actually respect their position in society.
 
Doug the electorate of this country feel that the Prime Minister got in on a majority vote......but the majority of the people in this country did not vote for Tony Blair......and until we get proportional representation we will NEVER have the part with the majority of votes in leadership.... but hey that is another ball game altogether.
 
shakermaker said:
im sure that the conduct of police officers was a lot more efficent when you were young. i am making the point that police officers should receive better training as to how to deal with situations involving "anarchaic youths"; so such troublemakers would actually respect their position in society.

We're not talking about anarchaic youth, we're talking about basic respect for one's elders and each other. Don't confuse Idiots and thugs with anarchaic youth.
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
Doug the electorate of this country feel that the Prime Minister got in on a majority vote......but the majority of the people in this country did not vote for Tony Blair......and until we get proportional representation we will NEVER have the part with the majority of votes in leadership.... but hey that is another ball game altogether.

Your quite right Margaret.....:)
 
There were fewer policemen Shakey......they didn't go around in two's.....they rode bikes.... and they would give you a stern telling off if they caught you up to any mischief.....and if they thought you deserved it they would give you a clip around the ear and then take you home and tell your parents what they had done. Parents didn't sue the police for the fact that their child had had a clip around the ear......you got another good hiding for needing to have the policeman bring you home.......I have not suffered as a result of such an up-bringing......I have a strong respect for authority.
Without a strong respect for authority the country is going to slide into anarchy.....it is half-way there already.
 
Your young, don’t worry about anarchic youth, live every minute of your life to the highest achievable standards and strive to lead by example. It's a gift, use it, every minute.
 
I don't believe the police need any more training to deal with anarchic youths........that is where many large organisations go wrong.......they come up against a problem and someone devizes a useless training course.

Youth will always have it's rebels. Respect is a core value that has to be taught at home, upheld by parents and schools.....and until this happens we will continue to have problems. These are however made worse by drugs and alcohol which is freely available to todays youth.
 
Perhaps respect rather than be scared of but we have gone far too far the other way. I was never scared of bobbies because I'd not done anything wrong. Nowadays the kids aren't scared of bobbies even when they have done something wrong because they know their rights.
 
I must admit; a little bit of invinceability comes across your mind; thinking "ah well im underage il get a slap on the wrist; they can't hit me or hurt me" not from personal experience...of course....ahem :D
 
Repect for the law.

Would that be the same law that was cycling round the streets of Manchester and Glasgow when Brady and Hindley were growing up in the 40's/50's?

The good old days weren't immune from crime. Go back a little further, when we were supposed to be the civilised centre of an Empire, and try walking through one of out great Victorian cities after dark.
 
Can we keep this in context……….This is the real world and it’s unpleasant, but we can hope to make it better, but only if we can talk sensibly…………
 
Doug said:
Can we keep this in context……….This is the real world and it’s unpleasant, but we can hope to make it better, but only if we can talk sensibly…………

I was.

I just think all this talk of a friendly clip round the ear from the local Bobby, with everything in the garden being rosey, is a bit cliched.

I've just watched on BBC2, hard nosed protaganist, and journalist Jerermy Paxman, reduced to tears as he found out how his well to do Yorkshire family roots really lay in the slums of Glasgow. Where his great grandmother lived with nine children in a one roomed tenament, and had her alms money stopped because she had the misfortune to have a child after she was widowed.

She would have shown, like many people of the time, 'respect' to her betters.

It doesn't make it a better world for that though.
 
True..........I found my humble beginnings in a slum street in Blackburn, A death of a child in a boarding house with two up and two down and an outside crapper. Five families lived in that house including my own.

I respect what you say, but like Shaky, we talk of times we know and they weren’t bed of roses. I was a sod, like my mate’s, but we respected the law when it caught us, we didn’t abuse it or claim rights we weren’t entitled too. If we did wrong we were punished.

Hard times, I can one Christmas going to the Social Service department to choose a two Christmas Presents out of an old cardboard box. Everything was broken and dirty, and I mean dirty. I was shocked and heartbroken, partly because I was being told to pick a toy and get out, and partly because my mother was on her knees crying because our lives had come to this. She stood up and told the nasty bitch to stuff her toys. My mothers marched us out, sold what she could and give us a good Christmas. We’ve all see hard times and done thing we shouldn’t. But it’s not an excuse for the thugs you see hanging round the streets today dressed in expensive kit, spitting at old and young alike. Thank god these people are in the minority.
 
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