Rotherham (A) Match Thread

No other loanees as either injured or on international duty.
Apart from Simpson who has been poor

All the loanees that play in a forward role have been poor as have most of the permanent players couldn't score in a brothel at the minute January window can't come soon enough Coley has to get it right then or we could be in for a real scrap at the bottom.
 
All the loanees that play in a forward role have been poor as have most of the permanent players couldn't score in a brothel at the minute January window can't come soon enough Coley has to get it right then or we could be in for a real scrap at the bottom.

We aren’t a million miles away based on today.
Four golden chances, McConville, Maguire, Finley and Clicker.
Not one on target
 
We aren’t a million miles away based on today.
Four golden chances, McConville, Maguire, Finley and Clicker.
Not one on target

Enjoy Clicker while you can. My understanding is he’s in his last year and January is our only window before he’s then available on a free.

Can’t see Holt sanctioning more 3 year deals given the return from the two 3 year deals offered last year and the 2 year deals for the new signings this year.
 
Enjoy Clicker while you can. My understanding is he’s in his last year and January is our only window before he’s then available on a free.

Can’t see Holt sanctioning more 3 year deals given the return from the two 3 year deals offered last year and the 2 year deals for the new signings this year.

Clickers already said he won’t sign.
He didn’t want to stay this year but club activated option.
Should have sold him in Summer.
No point selling in Jan for low ££.
Might as well keep and lose on free.
He’s not a game changer in my view.
 
Rotherham should have been out of sight at half time.
But they weren't - maybe their finishing is not too far ahead of ours. Wasn't there but listening to the radio coverage it sounded like we put up a decent performance & were unlucky to come away with nothing.
Ok, we're going through a sticky patch - we do so most seasons at some point - but I'm certain we can come through it as we have before, keep the faith
 
Don't be fooled Rotherham were playing on a different level to us.

To be fair I would have expected this given the disparity in resources available to each club. At the end of the day we are always going to be up against majority of sides L1.

Cant fault the effort today though and they nearly pulled off a salvage job. Still hopeful we'll survive.
 
Enjoy Clicker while you can. My understanding is he’s in his last year and January is our only window before he’s then available on a free.

Can’t see Holt sanctioning more 3 year deals given the return from the two 3 year deals offered last year and the 2 year deals for the new signings this year.

Play somebody who wants to be at the club drop him get rid in January if anyone wants him.
 
I must have watched a different game if Rotherham were on a different level to us. There was nothing in the game at all and as is often the case at this level, a set play ultimately decided the game.
I think Rotherham typify this league, no one is great but a lot of teams are just okay. The fact they sit in the top 6 alongside Blackpool, Coventry, Wycombe and Ipswich shows that this league just isn’t great this season.
We could have got something at the death and I actually thought second half we played quite well but without ever truly looking like scoring a goal.
2 massive league games coming up now, lets hope we find our scoring touch again.
 
I must have watched a different game if Rotherham were on a different level to us. There was nothing in the game at all and as is often the case at this level, a set play ultimately decided the game.
I think Rotherham typify this league, no one is great but a lot of teams are just okay. The fact they sit in the top 6 alongside Blackpool, Coventry, Wycombe and Ipswich shows that this league just isn’t great this season.
We could have got something at the death and I actually thought second half we played quite well but without ever truly looking like scoring a goal.
2 massive league games coming up now, lets hope we find our scoring touch again.

Agree with majority of that but I’d say we had 4 golden chances where if any of those were on target they’d likely result in a goal.
We stretched them last 15 minutes drawing defenders wide etc.
Need better decision making and more composure
 
Agree with majority of that but I’d say we had 4 golden chances where if any of those were on target they’d likely result in a goal.
We stretched them last 15 minutes drawing defenders wide etc.
Need better decision making and more composure

Need 2 decent strikers in the window wether Andy Holt sanctions this or Coley persuading some decent strikers here is the wish we would all like.
 
I must have watched a different game if Rotherham were on a different level to us. There was nothing in the game at all and as is often the case at this level, a set play ultimately decided the game.
I think Rotherham typify this league, no one is great but a lot of teams are just okay. The fact they sit in the top 6 alongside Blackpool, Coventry, Wycombe and Ipswich shows that this league just isn’t great this season.
We could have got something at the death and I actually thought second half we played quite well but without ever truly looking like scoring a goal.
2 massive league games coming up now, lets hope we find our scoring touch again.

And I ask again, using the tactics employed yesterday , who is going to score ?.
Strikers and adventurous midfielders score goals and ,in my humble opinion, the Reds don't have anyone of this ilk in their ranks at this present time !.

Goals = win matches = potential promotion. No GOALS = lose matches = definite relegation !. These words from Sir Bobby Robson still keep coming back to haunt me !
 
Need 2 decent strikers in the window wether Andy Holt sanctions this or Coley persuading some decent strikers here is the wish we would all like.

what we wish for and what we get are two separate things. most pre season wished for us to have our own players and not loanees. we got our wish and we,ve seen where it turned out. for me we have an average division 2 side playing in division 1 and coley will need a lot of luck in january to get the side up for a battle that its going to be.
 
what we wish for and what we get are two separate things. most pre season wished for us to have our own players and not loanees. we got our wish and we,ve seen where it turned out. for me we have an average division 2 side playing in division 1 and coley will need a lot of luck in january to get the side up for a battle that its going to be.
Will need more than luck i think, 1 up front at home, cant see that winning us many games.
 
Wasn’t going to go but had the fortune to have a corporate invite from a sponsor I occasionally help with year end accounts. Really impressed with the set up and stadium. Ou performance was as expected, very long ball and little thought in keeping possession.

I said at the start of the season the permanent signings were poor and panic buys. Bolton will be interesting, a club that has found a purpose on the pitch, whilst we are just sitting on long term contracts with no culpability.

We may have been sat close together Simpson and not known it ....... I was there as a guest of Rotherham with a few friends.
Interesting observation to me was the back page of the programme and the size of the respective squads. Ours massive compared to theirs.
So it begs the questions
Quality over quality does it work ?
No.
Has our recruitment been good ?
No
Who is responsible for that ? Manager, coaches, scouts, owner ?
Has to be Coley.
What are the reasons ?
Budget, the club itself unable to attract ?

We're in a real battle.
Bolton I nervously predict will get out of their dilemma and watch for a big push in the January market subject to where they are.

Are there worse sides than us at the moment ? Yes ......... but if you can't score you can't win.
 
Clickers already said he won’t sign.
He didn’t want to stay this year but club activated option.
Should have sold him in Summer.
No point selling in Jan for low ££.
Might as well keep and lose on free.
He’s not a game changer in my view.

Maybe it isn't public knowledge but seeing as the topic has been opened up for discussion all EFL clubs were circulated by the Club in the transfer window that Clark was available for transfer. What in the old days was called placed on the transfer list.
A deal never materialised.
I suspect due to the fee.
I therefore can assume that anyone interested will wait until the end of season and get him for nothing.
Interesting point about playing him or dropping him.
Do you cut off your nose to spite your face drop him and play someone who is committed to the club long term ?
All I can say to that if you have ever met a player as dedicated to his game, and as dedicated to the club that holds his registration other than Clark .......... I cant think of one.
Thoughts ?
 
We may have been sat close together Simpson and not known it ....... I was there as a guest of Rotherham with a few friends.
Interesting observation to me was the back page of the programme and the size of the respective squads. Ours massive compared to theirs.
So it begs the questions
Quality over quality does it work ?
No.
Has our recruitment been good ?
No
Who is responsible for that ? Manager, coaches, scouts, owner ?
Has to be Coley.
What are the reasons ?
Budget, the club itself unable to attract ?

We're in a real battle.
Bolton I nervously predict will get out of their dilemma and watch for a big push in the January market subject to where they are.

Are there worse sides than us at the moment ? Yes ......... but if you can't score you can't win.

That should have said quantity over quality ..........
 
Maybe it isn't public knowledge but seeing as the topic has been opened up for discussion all EFL clubs were circulated by the Club in the transfer window that Clark was available for transfer. What in the old days was called placed on the transfer list.
A deal never materialised.
I suspect due to the fee.
I therefore can assume that anyone interested will wait until the end of season and get him for nothing.
Interesting point about playing him or dropping him.
Do you cut off your nose to spite your face drop him and play someone who is committed to the club long term ?
All I can say to that if you have ever met a player as dedicated to his game, and as dedicated to the club that holds his registration other than Clark .......... I cant think of one.
Thoughts ?

I think it is a daft argument as for the majority of the club's existence most players have not been contracted past the end of the season, and the best players need to play or we go down.

We are punching above our weight and can't afford the new players some fans are going on about.

Contracts work both ways though, it is risky waiting for a free transfer.
 
Don’t understand your last point my friend.
Risky for the player ?
What choice has he got ?
Whilst under contract it is for the club to decide his future by either extending his contract or accepting an offer from another club.
Clearly any proposed terms offered were not enough.
If Clark does indeed become a free agent at the end of the season then there is no risk.
I’m sure there will be a few suitors.
 
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