Rutland Street

Thanks Margaret, I used to deliver building materials around the Accrington, back in the last century and have delivered to most streets in the town. I still remember where most of them are but that one had me stumped.
 
Good work Margaret.
I was going to suggest going into Google Earth to find the street, but after doing this myself, the only thing that showed up was Rutland Close in Clayton-le-Moors.
It would seem that Google Earth is not by any means the "Bible" for maps.

Cheers
Philip
 
landhusweg said:
Good work Margaret.
I was going to suggest going into Google Earth to find the street, but after doing this myself, the only thing that showed up was Rutland Close in Clayton-le-Moors.
It would seem that Google Earth is not by any means the "Bible" for maps.

Cheers
Philip
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I did the same thing Phillip and now wish I had kept my well thumbed copy of Shurmer's Guide. I am plotting the co-ordinates of all of our census records onto a Google map and need all the help I can get. I have plotted a number of missing streets in both Blackburn and Accrington but Rutland Street had me baffled. As always, the good folks of Accy Web came to the rescue.
 
Morecambe Ex Pat said:
I am pretty sure that Rutland Street was off Blackburn Road but can you please help in locating it exactly.
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Ay eck Morecambe, looks like none of the others are any elp, having been in Fire Brigade we had to know where streets were with out any head scratchin, jump int machine headlight and flashers on an roar of down road left at traffic light the on towards Church an on your left betwen Leyland St, and Lonsdale St, was Rutland St, most of the streets on that side of the road are only little short streets because of the railway line from Ossy, like Barlow, Porter, Percival, Holland & Poland
Not forgetting Lang, Grant, and Wheat, just after Wilows Lane.
 
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Morecambe Ex Pat said:
I did the same thing Phillip and now wish I had kept my well thumbed copy of Shurmer's Guide. I am plotting the co-ordinates of all of our census records onto a Google map and need all the help I can get. I have plotted a number of missing streets in both Blackburn and Accrington but Rutland Street had me baffled. As always, the good folks of Accy Web came to the rescue.
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Sumat else I forgot in the other post, I knew Adrian Shurmer very well, he operated out of the Police Garage in Grange Lane, Adrian use to consult our records when he was creatin his guide, we had rcords mot just on streets, but back alleys ginnals, premises. and water supplies, Adrian also made several deliberate mistakes in his books and street plans, I challenged him on several points, and he just laughed, and said thee an me know there wrong, thats to catch the plagarists, which he did.

Good un Adrian me owd fettler R.I.P .
 
I knew all the roads 30 years or more back and still remember most of them.

I too knew Adrian well as I did a lot of work for him but not on the street guide. He was a great bloke and I will always remember him saying he was too honest to be a politician.
 
A while back I was trying to remember the name of the street between Lonsdale St and Leyland St as friends from school (Peter and Juliet Inksman - actually it might have been spelled Hinksman) lived on the corner of Blackburn Rd and Rutland St. This was back in the early 60's to mid 70's, I often wonder what happened to all these people I knew from around this area. We lived at number 10 Lonsdale St (between 1962-77)
 
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Several of the streets that Retlaw has mentioned have been demolished. At least one has been re-named. Steiner gave the streets their names, though why he chose Rutland I am unsure. However, it is one of several in the town named after English counties,
 
I have fund my notes on Rutland St. They show that , before Steiner owned the land, it was owned by the Peels and Steiner didn't change the name allocated to it at the early planning stage. Some streets on Peel land were given county names, but not in clusters, just occasionally. However it is also possible that the Peels knew Charles Cecil John Manners, 6th Duke of Rutland who was a Conservative cabinet member with and under Lord Derby, a big mate of the Peels. He would be known to the Sir Robert Peel, who was PM in the 1830s & 40s. He was a very wealthy landowner and someone the Accrington Peels would associate with.
 
Back in Accrington and I am looking to confirm a bit of deduction.
We have an 1891 census for Rough Lee Road Accrington, the houses are listed in order and we get to the unadopted road at the top.

Rough Lee House ( former maternity home is listed)
Quarry Hill House, which I assume is the large house on the left
and then we get to a group of houses listed as Eaton Bank, where the people we are interested in live at number 7.

I am pretty sure that this has to be the large house we can see from Royds Street but I just want to confirm my information and possibly find out more about the history of what looks like what was originally a very large house.
 
Morecambe Ex Pat said:
Back in Accrington and I am looking to confirm a bit of deduction.
We have an 1891 census for Rough Lee Road Accrington, the houses are listed in order and we get to the unadopted road at the top.

Rough Lee House ( former maternity home is listed)
Quarry Hill House, which I assume is the large house on the left
and then we get to a group of houses listed as Eaton Bank, where the people we are interested in live at number 7.

I am pretty sure that this has to be the large house we can see from Royds Street but I just want to confirm my information and possibly find out more about the history of what looks like what was originally a very large house.
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Ey up More Cambe. Ive lived in Rough Lee Rd for over 50 years, I was born in the old maternity, an in all that time I've only been up to Eaton Bank Rough Lee Rd 1/2 dozen times, My electors list for 1914, shows a Charles Dawson at No 7 Eaton Bank, pity can't help you any further.
 
Thanks Retlaw,

Our chap was William Chapman 1805 - 1904, Assistant manager in a print works, we think it was Broad Oak but the jury is still out.
In 1881, he and his family lived at 10 Hollins Lane, then in 1891, they are at Eaton Place and by 1901 they are round the corner at Holly Bank. Eaton Place and Holly bank are both houses I have never heard of and it is interesting to get some background on the houses themselves. Eaton Bank looks like a big house rather than separate ones.

I am plotting the co-ordinates of all the census records we have, onto a Google Map, only 50 more to do out of over 400, hence why I am at the 'W's.

Is the electors list available online? When we were in Accy library we got a lot of info from the books upstairs.
 
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