School Beards.

cashman said:
Oh i agree D they no doubt were, but i'd still boot em off to where thats the norm, in other words,live by our standards or go if they are unacceptable to em.;)end of the day we live abroad n accept.
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Ya I wonder why its always us who have to change to cater for others who choose to live here, whether they're born here or not, if people don't like our way of living Manchester airport is only around 30 miles away and flights leave regularly for all points east:rolleyes:
 
Pretty sure that in the early '50s there were RC and Jewish pupils at AGS - they were excused morning assembly during prayers. Not 100% certain, maybe Bob Dobson can confirm or otherwise.
 
Barrie Yates said:
Pretty sure that in the early '50s there were RC and Jewish pupils at AGS - they were excused morning assembly during prayers. Not 100% certain, maybe Bob Dobson can confirm or otherwise.
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There were certainly none catholics at Holy Family (Mt Carmel) in the early 60s, they were exempt prayers at morning assembly
 
Barrie Yates said:
Pretty sure that in the early '50s there were RC and Jewish pupils at AGS - they were excused morning assembly during prayers. Not 100% certain, maybe Bob Dobson can confirm or otherwise.
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In late 50s, 59 to be precise i was refused admission by The Education Authority admittance to AGS cos i was catholic, even went wi me mam up to the office on "Cannon St" to argue the toss.
 
Barrie Yates said:
Pretty sure that in the early '50s there were RC and Jewish pupils at AGS - they were excused morning assembly during prayers. Not 100% certain, maybe Bob Dobson can confirm or otherwise.
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I can remember R.C. pupils at AGS . There was one in our class.He was excused morning assembly as you say. That was in the 1960's
 
maxthecollie said:
I can remember R.C. pupils at AGS . There was one in our class.He was excused morning assembly as you say. That was in the 1960's
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They objected to me cos i was at St Johns, being brought up wi me nan n she was bad on her pins n couldn't take me to St,Annes, she lived on block below St Johns n could stand at door whilst i walked up yon.:eek: Barstewards they were in my view.:(
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
It may have been a slow day in the newsroom, but it has still provoked interest...and comments.
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Says a lot on the day after a jury convicted an alchoholic mother of eight of manslaughter. The poor mite dying in unimaginable squalor and being found mummified years later.
Hutton was the daughter of a nurse came from a middleclass background and herself had been a care assistant. Professionals (not my description) who visited the house noted no concerns about the other children despite their untreated head lice, fungal infections and signs of frostbite like damage on their toes.
Then again there's already a thread "Tragic Human Failure"
 
DtheP47 said:
Says a lot on the day after a jury convicted an alchoholic mother of eight of manslaughter. The poor mite dying in unimaginable squalor and being found mummified years later.
Hutton was the daughter of a nurse came from a middleclass background and herself had been a care assistant. Professionals (not my description) who visited the house noted no concerns about the other children despite their untreated head lice, fungal infections and signs of frostbite like damage on their toes.
Then again there's already a thread "Tragic Human Failure"
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Well, if you had wanted to start a thread on that case, what stopped you?
Or you could have tagged into the thread on human failure...had you wanted to.
It was you who conceded that Less was right about a slow day in the newsroom.......so are you now saying that you were wrong?

And what pray, has this womans background got to do with the case?
Is it your belief that only such things happen in the lower socio economic groups? Or that you have to be poor and underprivileged to be bad?

Bad people come from all walks of life....I'm sure you will also have read about the groups of men who groomed vulnerable girls in Bradford, Rochdale and Oxford.
 
If its school policy then its tough , off comes the bum fluff like it or lump it. Once again as many have said the race card is produced when something does not suit. That's why when it is waved with legitimate cause people still view it through narrowed eyes with a good dose of cynicism.
 
walkinman221 said:
If its school policy then its tough , off comes the bum fluff like it or lump it. Once again as many have said the race card is produced when something does not suit. That's why when it is waved with legitimate cause people still view it through narrowed eyes with a good dose of cynicism.
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Very true its worn a bit thin now wi many people i come into contact with n the Politicians are to dense to grasp the nettle.:rolleyes:
 
if any faith can go to these schools then i am wondering with the boys only and girls only free muslim schools opening in Blackburn, are these forced to take in a percentage of other faiths?
 
walkinman221 said:
If its school policy then its tough , off comes the bum fluff like it or lump it. Once again as many have said the race card is produced when something does not suit. That's why when it is waved with legitimate cause people still view it through narrowed eyes with a good dose of cynicism.
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From my reading of it only one relative of the boys has claimed they are victims of discrimination and doesn't want to be named.
The school principle says he spent some time researching the issue and speaking to Muslim elders.
 
GJWatson said:
if any faith can go to these schools then i am wondering with the boys only and girls only free muslim schools opening in Blackburn, are these forced to take in a percentage of other faiths?
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Interesting question. Would you send a child of your own there if it was a fact that the quality of the tutoring was superior to that of a school of alternate religion?


Well. On this subject- If I had any children I would prefer that they do not go to any religious school and request that they do not get force fed any religion. Totally and utterly irrelevant to curriculum. In a perfect world, imho- would be no religious schools whatsoever.

DAV007 said:
Two bearded boys barred from Accrington school Mount Carmel Roman Catholic High School - Accrington Observer

In terms of science, How does a 14 year old grow a beard?
Parents been putting bio grow on their cornflakes?
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I ain't sure what it is. Higher levels of testosterone or something like that? I have an Irish friend, whom at 17 had a rug on his chest. Took me around 30 years to get a few hairs haha ;)
 
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Restless said:
Well. On this subject- If I had any children I would prefer that they do not go to any religious school and request that they do not get force fed any religion. Totally and utterly irrelevant to curriculum. In a perfect world, imho- would be no religious schools whatsoever.

I ain't sure what it is. Higher levels of testosterone or something like that? I have an Irish friend, whom at 17 had a rug on his chest. Took me around 30 years to get a few hairs haha ;)
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I guess it's a question of balance Rob, I'd prefer that kids are given a balanced and broad view of world religions. Easy to say but hard to put into practice.

Kids are reaching puberty earlier and earlier these days but then again there have always been early starters. I think the school is handling the situation sympathetically. After all they are only kids and will be coping with the associated emotional problems that puberty brings with it. It's the parent's or relatives that are advising them using their own agenda wrongly in my opinion.
 
DtheP47 said:
I guess it's a question of balance Rob, I'd prefer that kids are given a balanced and broad view of world religions. Easy to say but hard to put into practice.

Kids are reaching puberty earlier and earlier these days but then again there have always been early starters. I think the school is handling the situation sympathetically. After all they are only kids and will be coping with the associated emotional problems that puberty brings with it. It's the parent's or relatives that are advising them using their own agenda wrongly in my opinion.
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To be honest "D" i take the view "All kids are equal" n on that basis the school to me are handling it completely wrong. Any breach of school rules with any child should end in discussions between school @ parents of the child,to consult elders to me is ridiculous.:eek:I agree about parents or relatives advising to own agenda.:(
 
cashman said:
To be honest "D" i take the view "All kids are equal" n on that basis the school to me are handling it completely wrong. Any breach of school rules with any child should end in discussions between school @ parents of the child,to consult elders to me is ridiculous.:eek:I agree about parents or relatives advising to own agenda.:(
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I don't see how speaking with the elders is ridiculous, anything that helped the school to a sensible and balanced view has to be better than just talking to the parents.

"A side bar issue" as the yanks tend to say Ol. Just read some of Mo Farrah's bio and he makes mention of the respect he had for the elders in the madrassas including the big stick. Oh the good old days on Union Road eh?
 
DtheP47 said:
I don't see how speaking with the elders is ridiculous, anything that helped the school to a sensible and balanced view has to be better than just talking to the parents.

"A side bar issue" as the yanks tend to say Ol. Just read some of Mo Farrah's bio and he makes mention of the respect he had for the elders in the madrassas including the big stick. Oh the good old days on Union Road eh?
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I see your point, however, The other year i refused for my daughter to visit a mosque to study their beliefs. You want to know why i refused? Simple, It was a 1 way thing. It was ok for my daughter to visit a mosque but there was no school trip arranged to visit a church or any other faiths place of worship. Why is that? Simple, they do not belief in any other faiths nor will try to understand other peoples religious beliefs regardless.
 
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