they have backed down and as long as they have a letter from a religious leader they can keep the beards. Gonna tell the girls to get a letter from the hairdresser so they can keep their red hair. then 1 from the nail technician for their nails too! Where will it stop now?
School Beards.
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Well we all knew there would have to be a rule change, because we're all racists not letting people who weren't born here have all their own way, you will bow down and do as your told
According to the BBC website Councillor Munsif Dad has said : " I'm very glad that we are moving in the right direction . "
Local councillors have been unusually silent on the issue until now .
Where were they when they should have been encouraging discipline and respect for those in authority in the school ?
Local councillors have been unusually silent on the issue until now .
Where were they when they should have been encouraging discipline and respect for those in authority in the school ?
What would happen if all the white lads grew beards because Jesus had one?
This is another reason why a great country has become a joke,
Thanks a lot politicians.
What's annoying about this whole debacle is that the parents of two kids have held a whole school to ransom on the grounds of religious belief.
Ok, fine....but..
Eid means shutdown for Blackburn school (From Lancashire Telegraph)
A whole school is closed because the majority will truant because of the parents religious beliefs...what about the minority who will not truant, whose parents don't share those beliefs and are trying to earn a living, but will have to arrange and pay for childcare or lose 3 days wages.
This is what winds people up...it's always a one way climbdown...it's all give..give..give..and no take!
Ok, fine....but..
Eid means shutdown for Blackburn school (From Lancashire Telegraph)
A whole school is closed because the majority will truant because of the parents religious beliefs...what about the minority who will not truant, whose parents don't share those beliefs and are trying to earn a living, but will have to arrange and pay for childcare or lose 3 days wages.
This is what winds people up...it's always a one way climbdown...it's all give..give..give..and no take!
id say ok fair play now get on that cross and heres a few holes in your hands and feet to complete the look
and to keep things authentic for them id ban no-nails from the school they can have popper nails
id say i gave a crap just as much as if all the brown lads grew beards because mo had... crap thread has run its course
Back down on Human rights grounds? Lifted from this mornings "Torygraph".
Bearded Muslim schoolboys barred from class allowed to return because of human rights - Telegraph
Bearded Muslim schoolboys barred from class allowed to return because of human rights - Telegraph
Oooh!! Who's a proper grumpy Bear this morning "R"?
You caught me!
Yah. Been listening to wind chimes or something like it out back for the best part of 8 hours...
Yes , and for the Hyndburn Council ward of Spring Hill , where I live , and for the LCC ward of Accrington West .
I look forward to speaking to him if he comes knocking on my door asking for my support when he is next up for re-election .
Reading between the lines , I think that the school governors were prepared to stand by their policy , having had the pupils taught in isolation and then excluding them from the school and not allowing them to return unless they were clean shaven .
Why the U - turn ? I am sure that the intervention of the Bishop of Salford , within whose diocese Accrington is situated , has been crucial .
From the BBC website I quote : " The Bishop of Salford advised governors to work with the Islamic community and "support boys who are genuinely and fully committed to their faith".
It's fine for the bishop to start dictating from his ivory tower in Wardley Hall , Worsley , but this mess is just playing into the hands of such as are to be found in the BNP and EDL , and this whole business can have done nothing but harm to relations within the school and to the morale of the staff and governors .
Not a very happy situation .
so...now this schools uniform policy has been shot to pieces by these boys...how long will it be before some boys or girls flout the uniform/dress/behaviour policy by going to school with blue hair..or a wild haircut...and thy cite some bit of ECHR policy and are allowed to get away with it?
When these muslim boys first joined the school, they would have been made aware of uniform/behaviour policy...but I guess at 11 the parents didn't think of the hairy faces they might have in a few short years time.
They should have been told to move schools...to schools which feel comfortable with such things.
This decision undermines the authority of the school and its governors.
When these muslim boys first joined the school, they would have been made aware of uniform/behaviour policy...but I guess at 11 the parents didn't think of the hairy faces they might have in a few short years time.
They should have been told to move schools...to schools which feel comfortable with such things.
This decision undermines the authority of the school and its governors.
Agree 100%, according to JCB, seems the Bishop Of Salford has had a hand in this?
How ironic that the new Muslim faith academy somewhere down south, which was featured on Newsnight yesterday, insists that all it's female teachers of all faiths must now wear head covering! These are the school rules. What chance do you think of their "human rights" being supported by the EU busybodies?
Absolutely none......which is why it is so galling. There is only take...no give...and they do not tolerate any faith but their own.
Similarly a school in Derby had these rules too....I'm sure that I read that Ofsted had stepped in and closed it..althought they did say it was 'temporary'.
They could move to this school in Blackburn, which seems to arrange its holidays around the muslim calendar, rather than the traditional way.
Eid means shutdown for Blackburn school (From Lancashire Telegraph)
Eid means shutdown for Blackburn school (From Lancashire Telegraph)
Agree 100%, according to JCB, seems the Bishop Of Salford has had a hand in this?
On the BBC News website the head of Mount Carmel , Mr Bowers , is quoted as saying : " The Bishop of Salford advised governors to work with the Islamic community and "support boys who are genuinely and fully committed to their faith" " .
I fail to see what the European Convention of Human Rights has to do with .
In France and in Belgium the wearing of the burqa is banned in public places . I am not aware that the French or the Belgians are having problems with the European Convention of Human Rights because of this ban .
I do not see why we should have problems with the ECHR because of a ban on school children growing beards .
This issue should never have arisen in the first place .
There are various traditions in Islam as there are in Christianity . Some Muslims quote the words of Mohammad , not found in the Quran , that Muslim males should grow beards . I respect the beliefs of these Muslims in this matter . When the school was first faced with this issue , the governors should have consulted leading Muslims to clarify the matter . Having discovered that some Muslims do grow beards for religious reasons , out of respect for the beliefs of those Muslim pupils who adhere to these beliefs , they should have adapted their policy on dress and appearance to allow for this. This is now the policy of the school . With a little bit of foresight this hoo-ha need never have arisen .
I know it is easy to be wise after the event . That is why I still hold to the view that , while the dress and appearance code of the school stated that pupils be clean shaven , all pupils should have been made to abide by that code , even though that code should have been changed when it was discovered that it conflicted with the religious beliefs of some of the pupils .
"Well, here's another fine mess you've gotten me into."
