so..

Why are we giving £9.3 billion a year to the EU (up from £5.3 billion in 2009)? Why are we preparing to give yet more billions to bail out Portugal in a vain effort to rescue the Euro - a currency which we are not part of?

Madness...sheer madness. :confused:
 
could somone explain what punishment we would recieve from the EU if we told them to sod off and refused to give money away until we were in a position to do so.France have been sticking 2 finger sup at the EU for years and they seem to be getting away with it so why cant we.

to be honest it appears on tghe face of it that the EU needs us more than we need it.

lets not forget we aqre also giving millions away to countries that are not part of the EU so whats obliging us to give money to them?
 
accyman said:
fair point but this lot are still borrowing money so that's even more interest been paid and instead of using it to help us they are giving it away.

if the government must borrow more money shouldnt it at least be for our benefit and not some other countires.

were giving away money to pakistan school projects yet a report released yesterday shows that child poverty is increasing in this country with children turnig up to school hungry and in tatty clothes because their parents are struggling to feed them and clothe them.Why is pakistans school problems any concern of ours when there are so many schools in the uk that could do with repairs,new eqiptment etc

a local hospice in blackburn is having to beg for money to get a new roof for gods sake.There is so much needs fixing in this country before giving money out to other countries and people are getting sick and fed up of seeing millions going out that will never be paid back.

no matter what the last government did or did not do it is this government's job to fix it and it doesn't seem to be doing a good job of it.All we are seeing is savage cuts to OUR services and increasing prices on everything from fuel to food which only appear to be benefiting others not us
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All government HAVE to borrow money because the tax revenue is collected retrospective, in other words they can't spend it before you make it, but there's a difference between borrowing for need and borrowing for stupidity, I mean lets face it on top of the £43 billion interest we also have £60 billion in PFI still to be paid for, and all the other schemes that the last government signed up to without sound financial planning its a nightmare. But its absolutely amazing that after ten months out of office Labour seem to have all the answers, just a pity they didn't have them for the 13 years they were in a position to implement them
 
accyman said:
could somone explain what punishment we would recieve from the EU if we told them to sod off and refused to give money away until we were in a position to do so.France have been sticking 2 finger sup at the EU for years and they seem to be getting away with it so why cant we.

to be honest it appears on tghe face of it that the EU needs us more than we need it.

lets not forget we aqre also giving millions away to countries that are not part of the EU so whats obliging us to give money to them?
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Sadly, no prospect of that from a gutless poor man's Blair like Cameron. We'll just meekly pay up on the orders of our unelectable, unaccountable leaders in Brussels.

Incidentally, perhaps some of our resident Euro-enthusiasts like Bernard and Claytonender could tell us why it's such a good idea to spend billions of pounds bailing Portugal out in order to save the Euro?

Sssshhhh... ;)
 
Wynonie Harris said:
Sadly, no prospect of that from a gutless poor man's Blair like Cameron. We'll just meekly pay up on the orders of our unelectable, unaccountable leaders in Brussels.

Incidentally, perhaps some of our resident Euro-enthusiasts like Bernard and Claytonender could tell us why it's such a good idea to spend billions of pounds bailing Portugal out in order to save the Euro?

Sssshhhh... ;)
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If they're to busy to answer I will because days before leaving office Darling signed up to it.;)
 
jaysay said:
just a pity they didn't have them for the 13 years they were in a position to implement them
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13 years of a Labour Government eh?

Well we live and learn don't we?

The time seemed to go so quickly.

Thank you for such a refreshing revelation Jaysay.

Now if you don't mind, in future if I want repeats I'll watch Dave or Gold, surely unlike them you can think of something new to say?

:rolleyes:;):D
 
Less said:
13 years of a Labour Government eh?

Well we live and learn don't we?

The time seemed to go so quickly.

Thank you for such a refreshing revelation Jaysay.

Now if you don't mind, in future if I want repeats I'll watch Dave or Gold, surely unlike them you can think of something new to say?

:rolleyes:;):D
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Can't do with the really old ones Less, the relatively new ones are more apt and definitely to the point, which nobody should really forget:D
 
jaysay said:
Can't do with the really old ones Less, the relatively new ones are more apt and definitely to the point, which nobody should really forget:D
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If I had a spare 13 years I could probably work out what on earth you mean, but I haven't so the above will forever remain a mystery to me.
Think I'll go the Railway instead.:)
 
Less said:
If I had a spare 13 years I could probably work out what on earth you mean, but I haven't so the above will forever remain a mystery to me.
Think I'll go the Railway instead.:)
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Less, its called baffle um wi science, have one for me, wish I was coming with ya:D
 
jaysay said:
Less, its called baffle um wi science, have one for me, wish I was coming with ya:D
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It seemed more like clutching at straws to me, pure B.S.
:)

I'll have one for you but you'll have to pay and yes, I do accept PayPal.
:D
 
Less said:
It seemed more like clutching at straws to me, pure B.S.
:)

I'll have one for you but you'll have to pay and yes, I do accept PayPal.
:D
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Ya never know Less I may just surprise ya one day and call in, in person, do they take Visa in the Railway:D
 
So, we're enduring massive cuts which are really affecting our standards of living, while Cameron and his cronies are squandering our money on...

...a 37% increase in foreign aid, much of which is going to countries who spend large amounts on weapons and even in India's case, the space race.

...increasing involvement in yet another bout of foreign adventurism in Libya which has cost £25 million so far with no end in sight.

...the possibility of donating billions to an aid package for Portugal - a country which has failed to introduce its own programme of austerity cuts of the sort that we are having to endure. And before anyone starts bleating about Darling having signed up to the agreement, the Tories' own leader in the EU parliament has said that the government could contest our commitment to this both politically and legally. The fact is Cameron is more concerned about maintaining good relations with Brussels than he is with the welfare of the British people.

But we're not finished yet, far from it. While preaching austerity, the government is endlessly inventive in the ways it finds to squander our money abroad. How about this piece of lunacy?

EU 'wastes billions in aid' - Telegraph

Are YOU happy that £1.4 billion of your hard-earned taxes are being spent like this?
 
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