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then it is legal to go through on amber how the hell does a camera know if its safe or not, they should not be flashing until a red light is violated , pretty simple realy
if you got slammed into at an amber light then obviously it wasnt safe to stop and you should have gone through it
i cant be the only person in the country that has noticed teh lights change to amber as you are almost right next to them , by your rules i should slam on and have the guy behind ram me up the arse, the cameras shoudl not trigger until red as that is teh only colour on teh traffic lights that it is illigal to go through
if they want money for going through on amber then going through on amber shoudl be made illigal but up to yet it isnt
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Nope, it was safe to stop. The person behind me in her own words said, "Oh hes a biker, I thought he'd go through so I accelerated to nip through after him, by the time I saw hed stopped I was going too fast."
I agree that it shouldn't trigger till red
The correct method to use is to set a point in the road and simply if you reach that point before it goes to amber you go through, if it changes before you stop. I actually find there is normally the arrows painted on the road that is at a suitable point
I agree that it shouldn't trigger till red
The correct method to use is to set a point in the road and simply if you reach that point before it goes to amber you go through, if it changes before you stop. I actually find there is normally the arrows painted on the road that is at a suitable point
hey i agree its daft that people accelerate to get through on amber i was just trying to make my point that the cameras shuoldnt trigger until red , becaue they trigger on amber (and i speak from experience) peopel are slamming on at the amber lights which although may get you a nice compensation claim if somone rams you from behind can still be very dangerous and painfull
maybe anothe colour is needed lol
green = go
amber = lights gonna change soon
blue = i said lights are gonna change soon
red = ok bloody stop will ya
maybe anothe colour is needed lol
green = go
amber = lights gonna change soon
blue = i said lights are gonna change soon
red = ok bloody stop will ya
I think it is quite sensible to accelerate if the lights change to amber if you are next in line at the lights and would be dangerous to suddenly slam on at amber due to the fear of someone hitting you up the backside >> sorry Entwisi. Problem is, you have to be aware that someone may do this. The old question isn't it ? What does it mean if the lights are on green ... "Means go?" "No, means they can change at any minute to warn you to stop"
We aren't talking of people 'slamming on' that would clearly fall into the not safe to stop catagory. I suffered because someone didn't pay attention, made assumptions and was in the ususal impatient manner that a lot of drivers seem to be.
I had stopped and put my foot down before she hit me, so based on she would have been at least 20 ft behind me before we started braking and the fact I stopped 6ft before the line (And I didn't slam on, I slowed down to a stop as normal) she could have easily stopped and therefore it was safe to stop so she clearly should have done.
"Don't be an Amber Gambler!"
I had stopped and put my foot down before she hit me, so based on she would have been at least 20 ft behind me before we started braking and the fact I stopped 6ft before the line (And I didn't slam on, I slowed down to a stop as normal) she could have easily stopped and therefore it was safe to stop so she clearly should have done.
"Don't be an Amber Gambler!"
Sorry katex but your interpretation of the meaning of green is erroneous.
Taken from http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs01.htm
RED - means 'Stop'. Wait behind the stop line on the carriageway.
RED & AMBER - also means 'Stop'. Do not pass through or start until GREEN shows.
GREEN - means you may go on if the way is clear. Take special care if you intend to turn left or right and give way to pedestrians who are crossing.
AMBER - means 'Stop' at the stopline. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident.
A GREEN ARROW - may be provided in addition to the full green signal if movement in a certain direction is allowed before or after the full green phase. If the way is clear you may go but only in the direction shown by the arrow. You may do this whatever other lights may be showing. White light signals may be provided for trams.
Taken from http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs01.htm
RED - means 'Stop'. Wait behind the stop line on the carriageway.
RED & AMBER - also means 'Stop'. Do not pass through or start until GREEN shows.
GREEN - means you may go on if the way is clear. Take special care if you intend to turn left or right and give way to pedestrians who are crossing.
AMBER - means 'Stop' at the stopline. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident.
A GREEN ARROW - may be provided in addition to the full green signal if movement in a certain direction is allowed before or after the full green phase. If the way is clear you may go but only in the direction shown by the arrow. You may do this whatever other lights may be showing. White light signals may be provided for trams.
Excellent Jambutty. Perhaps people would do well to remind themselves of that from time to time. How many people who have passed their test will tell you "Green means go, red means stop and amber means get ready to stop."
We were once stopped by the police for "speeding" along Hyndburn Road when other cars were actually overtaking us but as we were (even according to our own speedo) doing more than 30mph at the time we really didn't feel justified in complaining about it.
I do think sometimes it's taken to extremes and there are also many other causes of accidents. Sometimes constant checking of your speedo can mean you don't have your eyes on the road and could miss a child darting out in front of you for instance. We've had that too - a kid lying horizontal on a skateboard careering down the pavement suddenly hit a stone or something which sent him off course and into the road right in front of us. It frightened me to death.
There is also the point that some of these hand held devices have been proved to be inaccurate and even take a small movement of the arm holding the thing into account and add it to the speed of a vehicle being 'clocked'. But wanting to know where speed cameras are just so you can avoid them and exceed the limit elsewhere is not a particularly brilliant idea.
We were once stopped by the police for "speeding" along Hyndburn Road when other cars were actually overtaking us but as we were (even according to our own speedo) doing more than 30mph at the time we really didn't feel justified in complaining about it.
I do think sometimes it's taken to extremes and there are also many other causes of accidents. Sometimes constant checking of your speedo can mean you don't have your eyes on the road and could miss a child darting out in front of you for instance. We've had that too - a kid lying horizontal on a skateboard careering down the pavement suddenly hit a stone or something which sent him off course and into the road right in front of us. It frightened me to death.
There is also the point that some of these hand held devices have been proved to be inaccurate and even take a small movement of the arm holding the thing into account and add it to the speed of a vehicle being 'clocked'. But wanting to know where speed cameras are just so you can avoid them and exceed the limit elsewhere is not a particularly brilliant idea.
Thanks WillowTheWhisp.
Any driver worthy of the name should be able to judge his/her speed without constantly looking at the speedo, especially at 30 mph. Well they should if they are ‘in tune’ with the car. I don’t know about anyone else but I can ‘feel’ the speed at 30 mph. There is a car vibration ‘feel’ about travelling at 30 mph in top or next to top gear. There is a different ‘feel’ about my car at different speeds even with the radio/DVD player belting out my driving music.
It is all about concentration and being aware of the road, not just ahead in the road but the pavements too. If you see a child or children on the pavement, a driver should be ready for one of them to do something silly. Nowadays that also applies to adults especially near a pub or in town. If you see an animal ahead on the pavement not on a leash, expect it to dash across the road. I’m not suggesting that you should slow down and irate drivers behind you, just be ready for the unexpected and gain half a second before having to take action.
Unfortunately we drivers are not blessed with X-Ray vision so we will not see someone stepping into the road from behind a parked vehicle. Having said that if there are pedestrians on the pavement then you have to expect it to happen. If you are overtaking a bus that has stopped to disembark passengers you have to expect that some clown will to try and cross the road in front of it. Everyone seems to be in such a hurry to get to hospital or the morgue these days that many pedestrians seem to have lost the art of crossing the road safely, not just for them but also for the traffic. It’s amazing how many pedestrians will see a car approaching, look away and still step out onto the road.
My worst nightmare is approaching a blind bend on a country road where I am on the inside of the bend. Oncoming traffic will invariable cut their corner, leaving me with nowhere to go.
Any driver worthy of the name should be able to judge his/her speed without constantly looking at the speedo, especially at 30 mph. Well they should if they are ‘in tune’ with the car. I don’t know about anyone else but I can ‘feel’ the speed at 30 mph. There is a car vibration ‘feel’ about travelling at 30 mph in top or next to top gear. There is a different ‘feel’ about my car at different speeds even with the radio/DVD player belting out my driving music.
It is all about concentration and being aware of the road, not just ahead in the road but the pavements too. If you see a child or children on the pavement, a driver should be ready for one of them to do something silly. Nowadays that also applies to adults especially near a pub or in town. If you see an animal ahead on the pavement not on a leash, expect it to dash across the road. I’m not suggesting that you should slow down and irate drivers behind you, just be ready for the unexpected and gain half a second before having to take action.
Unfortunately we drivers are not blessed with X-Ray vision so we will not see someone stepping into the road from behind a parked vehicle. Having said that if there are pedestrians on the pavement then you have to expect it to happen. If you are overtaking a bus that has stopped to disembark passengers you have to expect that some clown will to try and cross the road in front of it. Everyone seems to be in such a hurry to get to hospital or the morgue these days that many pedestrians seem to have lost the art of crossing the road safely, not just for them but also for the traffic. It’s amazing how many pedestrians will see a car approaching, look away and still step out onto the road.
My worst nightmare is approaching a blind bend on a country road where I am on the inside of the bend. Oncoming traffic will invariable cut their corner, leaving me with nowhere to go.
My late father said, a motor car should be driven by the seat of your pants, it tells you when to change gear, when the engine is labouring you can feel it on your backside, as jambutty said it is basicly experience and attention to the task in hand, today there are to many in car distractions, and there are far to many speed traps.
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Mancie are you trying to tell me you have never gone over the limit at all? If so what a load of bullocks. And look at me surronded by angels saying oh its your own fault, i never spedd etc etc.I dont believe you if you say you havent everyone as at some point. And i aint bitching about it as its her license not mine just wondering if people knew of anymore out there and thought it might prove useful to other users on here. Only place id speed is on the motorway and thats if my car could speed
Mancie are you trying to tell me you have never gone over the limit at all? If so what a load of bullocks. And look at me surronded by angels saying oh its your own fault, i never spedd etc etc.I dont believe you if you say you havent everyone as at some point. And i aint bitching about it as its her license not mine just wondering if people knew of anymore out there and thought it might prove useful to other users on here. Only place id speed is on the motorway and thats if my car could speed
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I have to say that I was never been done for speeding, or should i say never got caught that is, except once. Unfortuneatly I dont drive now, but the one time I got pulled was back in the 70s, well before speed cameras. I was on my way to Chorely in the works van and was travelling down the duel carriage way into the town when a cop jumpt out in front of me with his had up, he was lucky really. I stopped and he told me I was doing 38 in a 30 mile zone, I said I didn't realise it was was 30 mile zone on a duel carriage way, he said that ignorance was no excuse and gave me a ticket. I went home that night and wrote a grovelling letter to the chief constable of Chorley and hoped for the best. Some three weeks later I got a reply saying that on this occasion no futher action would be taked, but the offence would stay on the file and would be used if I ofended again. I didn't and it hasn't
I can understand that you can tell the difference between 30mph and 40 or 50mph but can you honestly tell if your speed has crept up slightly? If you're going along at 30mph and everyone is overtaking you, can you really tell if you creep up to 32 or 35? I must admit I'm not actually driving but as a passenger in our car I honestly can't say that 32 or even 35 feels any different to 30mph. That's why speed can crep up on people without them noticing. I don't think speeding fines are appropriate for a few miles over - what does work better are those signs which light up telling you that you're doing 35 and it should be 30.
Isn't it something to do with whether it's a residential area or not?
i can think of one dual carrage way that i usd to use a lot where the trees ,bushes etc had over grown to the extent they covered the 30mp sighn and if you can prove this you have grounds to appeal and get the ticket quashed , usualy a photo will do
the council are supposed to maintain trees , bushes etc so that all roadsighns and speed cameras are visable to motorists
How can a pedestrian cop without any equipment prove what speed you were travelling at jaysay? He can’t unless it is excessively over the limit and even then he can’t quote a figure. I think that he saw you coming and was looking for Brownie points, knowing that most motorists (in the 70’s) wouldn’t argue with a cop. You got let off, because the police would not be able to PROVE in court what your speed was – it was only a cop’s opinion and that isn’t proof. However grovelling letters can lessen any sentence especially if it includes something to the effect that you have learned to be more aware of your speed and will in future conform to any speed limits.
No I cannot tell if my speed has crept up a few miles per hour WillowTheWhisp BUT I am aware that it can happen and being aware I look out for it happening. Like down an incline or being ‘pushed’ by the traffic flow.
According to the Highway Code at www.highwaycode.gov.uk/ built up areas where there are street lights usually means 30 mph speed limit unless there are signs showing another limit.
No I cannot tell if my speed has crept up a few miles per hour WillowTheWhisp BUT I am aware that it can happen and being aware I look out for it happening. Like down an incline or being ‘pushed’ by the traffic flow.
According to the Highway Code at www.highwaycode.gov.uk/ built up areas where there are street lights usually means 30 mph speed limit unless there are signs showing another limit.
have you been on the road between rishton and great harwood it cracks me up how there is a 50mph sighn then 100 yars or even less there is a 30mph sighn
anyone new to the area could see teh 50 sighn and by teh tiem they spot teh 30 sighn be speeding because they wernt allerted in time
also this is where mobile speed units like to hide becaue of that very reason , near the pub but i cant recall its name
its practicaly entrapment
anyone new to the area could see teh 50 sighn and by teh tiem they spot teh 30 sighn be speeding because they wernt allerted in time
also this is where mobile speed units like to hide becaue of that very reason , near the pub but i cant recall its name
its practicaly entrapment
The pub you're talking about is harwoods, more a restaurant nowadays. i do know of a couple of people who have been done there in the past but not lately.
A bad one is brownhill drive where it goes from a 50 to a 40 then 30 in less than 100 yards...!
