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I thought this little episode might fit nicely with Accymans thread.

I had to go to my Doctors this morning, he signed me off sick.

Now as many of you know I've been on Job Seekers, so you'd think transferring from one benefit to another should be reasonably straight forward.

Oh, no, wrong again Less.

I took my sick note down to the joke shop and showed it at reception, Ah, you need to fill in form such and such o.k. says I where can I get that?
Oh no problem I'll fill it in for you now.
Name addy, Insurance number length of time signed off as ill.
Right there you go, all done she said.
Goodness me I replied I expected it to be a little more complicated to transfer benefits that's marvelous. Oh dear me no, that's not a transfer, that's just us stopping your money, you will now have to make a fresh claim for Employment Support Allowance.

Right, so can I do that here?

No you ring this number they will fill it in over the 'phone, send you the form to check and sign, you put the sick note in with the form and once they've processed it you'll be informed about being, entitled, or not. (The last part was said very quietly, I don't think she really wanted me to hear that).

Can I ring from here?

No our 'phones are for Job seekers only, you'll have to go home and ring from there.
:o
 
Gordon Booth said:
So in the meantime you don't get any money off anyone?
How did you stop yourself from screaming?
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The little I understand is, that whatever I was entitled to up and until filling in their form this morning, I will be paid, how much and when well, ???

As for when a decision will be made about my new claim to get whatever, whenever, I've no idea. It will be delayed, because, well, I'm ill by the time I got home, I made a brew, and collapsed into, there, there, it will all be better in the morning mode.

No point in me screaming, No-one hears you scream when you're filling out forms.
:D
 
apparantly the ESA assement folk ATOS have been decalring people who are dead fit for work .

Is your illness more severe than death because if not you may be in for a rough time
 
Less said:
I thought this little episode might fit nicely with Accymans thread.

I had to go to my Doctors this morning, he signed me off sick.

Now as many of you know I've been on Job Seekers, so you'd think transferring from one benefit to another should be reasonably straight forward.

Oh, no, wrong again Less.

I took my sick note down to the joke shop and showed it at reception, Ah, you need to fill in form such and such o.k. says I where can I get that?
Oh no problem I'll fill it in for you now.
Name addy, Insurance number length of time signed off as ill.
Right there you go, all done she said.
Goodness me I replied I expected it to be a little more complicated to transfer benefits that's marvelous. Oh dear me no, that's not a transfer, that's just us stopping your money, you will now have to make a fresh claim for Employment Support Allowance.

Right, so can I do that here?

No you ring this number they will fill it in over the 'phone, send you the form to check and sign, you put the sick note in with the form and once they've processed it you'll be informed about being, entitled, or not. (The last part was said very quietly, I don't think she really wanted me to hear that).

Can I ring from here?

No our 'phones are for Job seekers only, you'll have to go home and ring from there.
:o
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Marvelous how wonderfully helpful they were with you Less, what would be so hard to sort your case out in one visit and without all the flaming red tape, mind you, if they started doing that they'd never justify going on marches about job cuts would they, if the public sector was run on the same lines as the private sector they could use half the staff, but shushhhh they don't want you to hear that
 
jaysay said:
Marvelous how wonderfully helpful they were with you Less, what would be so hard to sort your case out in one visit and without all the flaming red tape, mind you, if they started doing that they'd never justify going on marches about job cuts would they, if the public sector was run on the same lines as the private sector they could use half the staff, but shushhhh they don't want you to hear that
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One minute you want the government to create jobs for people, next minute your saying the government have too many people doing those jobs.

You can't have it both ways.
 
Neil said:
One minute you want the government to create jobs for people, next minute your saying the government have too many people doing those jobs.

You can't have it both ways.
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There are two sorts of jobs, there are true jobs and jobs just to placate unions and politicians, if the private sector, and always remember the private sector are the wealth creators, because without them nobody works, ran their business like the public sector they'd go bankrupt in six months, the public sector is and always has been top heavy with clerical staff, even now in the age of the computer, which on the face of it should help to speed administration up. if you had a private building firm that had 50 trades men and labourers on their books along with 50 office staff how long would they be in business, not very long, but the public sector wonder on blindly financed by the tax payer, and nobody says a dickybird, they just keep throwing money at it year after year, and not only that when they do retire they'll get a pension far better than ordinary joe in the street
 
accyman said:
so you go to the town hall and sit at the window talking to an advisor for 20 mins while you fill in the forms you require

you are then handed back your documents and told to put them in an orange envolope and take it outside the building and put it in the mail box so it can be collected at the end of day by someone upstairs

why cant the muppet keep hold of the documents and take them upstairs?

i know there are cuts but is leg power that expensive ?

Also if asked for proof of ID the council now expect you to mail in your passport or driving licence or drop it off in the mail box outside the building so they can scan it and send it back to you by mail.

Has the world become so complacant that people are willing to leave documents that are basically your identity in the hands of a muppet with a scanner and the shambles known as royal mail ?

i never let vital documents out of my sight and i cetrainly wouldnt expect to be parted from them for up to a week.God knows what could happen to them and they arnt cheap to replace either
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Totally agree with you. This kind of thing seems designed to drive a bloke mad. I really hate it when they ring you up stating your name and you respond normally as you do on the phone, one human being to another, when they suddenly have the cheek to ask you three questions to prove you are the person they rang in the first place.
My identity is so undesirable that I wish someone would nick it, debts 'n all.
 
Tesco Rambler said:
Totally agree with you. This kind of thing seems designed to drive a bloke mad. I really hate it when they ring you up stating your name and you respond normally as you do on the phone, one human being to another, when they suddenly have the cheek to ask you three questions to prove you are the person they rang in the first place.
My identity is so undesirable that I wish someone would nick it, debts 'n all.
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I tell them that I should be asking the questions to prove who they are. I then tell them to write to me.
 
Less said:
Just for you Gordon a link to my blog about this:-
Once Upon A Time In The Land Of We're All In It Together - Accrington Web

:D
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It's a bit like Shakespeare, thinking he'd mastered the art of comedy in Hamlet, decided to write a script for a 'Carry On' film.
You couldn't make it up. Unfortunately in your case, Less, you don't have to.
Still, the bright side is you're keeping a lot of incompetent people in work making life hard for people like yourself.
If you can see through your tears to type and they don't cut off your power, broadband and air supply please let us know what happens.
 
meanwhile cameron is defending obscene bonuses for bankers saying that if they are capped it will take all teh top tallent away from europe

well im sorry but if this shower of crap we have now in the banking buisness is what cameron thinks is top tallent then id say we were better off without them and go let them ruin another countries economy
 
went down to the town hall today and i reakon the next step will be to shut the area once used by people to pay council tax and discuss problems and just leave the letterbox in operation to avoid heating costs to the room once used.

not to worry though because as the recorded message saya when waiting to speak to someone you can always hop online and aske them questions which isnt much use to people who dont have internet
 
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