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Just out of curiosity i'm wondering how many Accy Web members are on strike tomorrow, fighting for their pension rights? (I'm on strike.)

My daughter thinks it's great because we've got a letter home from her school (Mount Carmel) saying it's shut tomorrow, and i do know of a few other school closeures as well.
 
I'm not actually on strike but I'm not required to work because the school is closed to pupils.
 
I work for a company where most of the staff are on strike but because I am not a union member I am not allowed to strike (explanation in my journal), but I have taken leave as support as it affects my pension too. But my lads are at school tomorrow though:)
 
Yup my younger brother is off from Mount Carmel tomorrow...can I just say why was there nothing like this when I was there?!!!

Methinks we shall be getting up to no good at all in the morrow!!!:D
 
What I would like to understand is why do you think that you as public servants should be treat differently to the rest of the working public?

As I understand it you get the equivilant of final salary schemes paid at 60 whilst the rest of us have to manage on money purchase schemes with target age of 65.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
 
It looks like they are falling into line with the rest of the country. My company ended its final salary scheme a few years ago. All new employees are on money purchase. Th old fianl scheme still stands for those who originally got it (for now)
 
harwood red said:
I work for a company where most of the staff are on strike
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I didn't realise you worked for LCC. I thought it was a private housing association.
 
Neil said:
I didn't realise you worked for LCC. I thought it was a private housing association.
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It is, but because the company was created through a stock transfer from the council all the staff transferred from the council too, so part of the agreement was they could keep their LG pension. I joined after the transfer but was also offered the pension
 
I missed a final salary scheme with Barclays by 6 months.

What makes me laugh in the press is that the Daily Mails etc of this world lambast companies for shutting final salary scemes yet this was exactly what its owners did themselves. Then they have the cheek to complain when final salary schemes are being pillaged for the funds by gordon brown, co secrataries etc.

Money purcahse schemes may not pay out the levels of teh best FS schemes but at least yoe know the money will be there when you retire.
 
Neil said:
Sounds odd, non LCC people on LCC pensions.
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You'd be amazed there are a few. I think it may have harmed the transfer if they hadn't agreed as many have been paying into this pension for years! It's quite normal for the pension to be transferred to the company the employee has had to move to in the case of privatisation
 
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I am with Entwisi on this one. Why should local government workers and civil servants be treated differently than the rest of the working population? What makes them so special?

As we have seen with any department of HBC you care to mention, it is not as if they do a particularly good job, or are super-efficient.

And why is it that the rest of us poor schmucks will be the ones who have to fork out and pay for this through increases in council tax.

If you lot want to retire at sixty - fine! Good luck to you.

But I think that you are the ones who should be paying for it,

not us!​

And I think that it is disgraceful that services which we pay for should be disrupted simply because you cannot get your own way.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,542-2106449,00.html
 
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I can't speak for council workers but I can speak for midwives and nurses and say that working until 65 or 70 would be completely impossible.

At present, nursing staff can still retire earlier, similar to the police and fire services. We won't be entitled to state pensions any earlier than anybody else, it will be our own pensions that we access from 60 ish, or so I believe. Pensions that some of us will have paid into for 40 years, in other words.......our money.

It has always been understood within nursing that as public sector workers we have had much worse pay and conditions than private sector workers. Early retirement was the only perk, in return for years of underpaid service. I know that if I'd have worked privately as a nurse, I would have earned more and had more perks of the job. However, I would have had to contribute much more to a private pension in order to get the same benefits, so ultimately it wasn't worth the extra money working in the private sector.

I do think that there are many jobs which would be detrimental to the health of the worker, if they were to do them beyond the age of 60. Being a desk jockey is not one of them. I can understand the care assistants protesting, it can be a heavy, nasty job wiping bums for a living, but council office workers........ :rolleyes:
 
yes but i draw my pension & a private pension that i paid into & i get taxed on the private one & its not much either that im getting so do we win? is it worth it?
 
lettie said:
I do think that there are many jobs which would be detrimental to the health of the worker, if they were to do them beyond the age of 60.
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And that goes for workers in the real world as well.
Am I supposed to expect my 60 year old electrition to be as able as my 24 year old one. Would any 60 year old's like to try climbing a 40 foot vertical ladder to check a fan motor is ok, repairs faulty gantry cranes 45 feet from the ground above a melt furnace ( its a tad warm up there ) or work 5 feet from cast iron pouring at 1400 degrees centigrade?
So what shall I do fire him becasue he may not be as capable as he once was or look after him by giving him lighter type jobs as often as I can?
 
Yep I agree with entwisi and A-b here. I can't see people getting much sympathetic support for wanting a better situation for themselves than the people have who are going to be paying for it.

My kids are at school as usual. One just missed out on a trip but that will take place later.
 
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