Strikes next week too..

What should happen?

  • Raise pay to 6% and increase council tax to pay for it

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • raise pay higher than 2.45%

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Raise to the offered 2.45%

    Votes: 6 42.9%
  • No pay rise

    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • Total voters
    14
  • Poll closed .
i strongly recommend people to disregard this poll, cyfr has no idea whatsoever about negotiation, or if he does he is being evading the true basis of negotiation, i fer one will completly ignore this fallacy.:mad:
 
me too and I am one of the ones affected, although not in the union, my company only sets the pay through the union
 
The options on your poll are slightly restrictive to say the least, as a UNISON member who has been on strike there is no way we will get 6% but with all negotiations you aim high and come to a compromise. It's probably hoped that we would get nearer to the inflation rate. I personally would accept 4% however I feel we will be lucky if we get it increased to 3%
 
I'm fine for the poll to be remade to read 'above 2.45%' rather than 6%. I only wrote what they were asking for on the BBC. I will PM mick now.
 
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above 2.45% and 6% still leaves a lot of scope and will not give any common sense response to your poll

The option of no rise is also not an option since the employers have already offered 2.45%, if they then offered nothing there would be civil war!!
 
This is for accyweb people to give their opinion on what they think, its not binding. Clearly not going to suit everyone with the poll. Pm'ed mick about making it say 2.45+
 
Irrespective of whether it is a pay cut or an insubstantial pay increase, these people have a right to take up their grievance with their employer.

Would you advocate the removal of that right ?


Just thought I would quote myself from the Bin Strike thread seeing as no answer was forthcoming


 
You have a fine career in politics mapped out because you evade answering direct questions!! Gayle asked you to give examples of innocent people detained as suspected terrorists, no reply. And I asked you if our MP's were happy to in effect settle for less than a rise in their pay and once again you didn't answer!!! The world is your oyster as long as you stick to politics as you are quite adept on not answering questions just deflecting them!!!
 
agree with most bernie, but not with "fine career in politics" think the highest he will ever reach is local level.
 
that surprises me shaker,can appreciate you knowing very little about negotiations, but always gave ya credit fer having more sense than cyfr.

Just looking at the big picture cashman.
I claim to be no expert at all, just giving an opinion.
 
me too and I am one of the ones affected, although not in the union, my company only sets the pay through the union

I think you are in a slightly different position than the Council workers. Your company can make a pay rise relative to how well it is performing and the profits it is making.

Out of interest what percentage increase will be applied to the house/flat rents this year?
 
You have a fine career in politics mapped out because you evade answering direct questions!! Gayle asked you to give examples of innocent people detained as suspected terrorists, no reply. And I asked you if our MP's were happy to in effect settle for less than a rise in their pay and once again you didn't answer!!! The world is your oyster as long as you stick to politics as you are quite adept on not answering questions just deflecting them!!!

Not to derail, but until you can give examples of terrorists that needed more than 28 days detention to convict your accusation is pretty hypocritical. Gutted.

(Sorry for derailing)
 
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Not to derail, but until you can give examples of terrorists that needed more than 28 days detention to convict your accusation is pretty hypocritical. Gutted.
Why is it hypocritical?? I did not say I would offer examples just that I would much rather the extra days in custody than any terroist slipping through the net!!!
May one ask why you have appeared again just to try and talk down to regular contributors??? You just appear to stick your oar in to try and stir things up without actually saying anything constructive!!!
 
The outcome should be that there is no pay rise in my opinion.
World recession is well documented, Brown has ferked up our own economy as I see it at the present.

People should always have the right to air a grievance with their employer, but I think the strikers have backed a losing horse in this instance.

We are all going to have to tighten our belts UNISON members too
 
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