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Sunderland played better than when we played them the 1st two times. Mcgeady scored a quality goal. Our tactics/formation which Coley is trying to tinker with a lot at present didn't work first half. In fact it was the poorest half I have seen us play this season.
For 20 mins second half we had a good go at Sunderland, the Sousa gamble was paying off. But we tired and Sunderland re-assumed control. You can't fault are lads effort, Sunderland looked at better team than us and are this season.
We have 3 massive games now, I am concerned ahead of them. Can we score enough goals. For me we are not moving the ball quick enough and the opposition are snuffing us out. Are offensive play is not creating enough at present.Defensively, Sykes can be great one moment but makes some poor decisions the next. Johnson has recently been found out defensively for me. The last 20 mins with Sousa and Johnson on that side it felt like we could be in deep trouble.
Anyhow if we can Scramble 2/3 wins from here (which i feel we could do). I will be chuffed.

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I didn't think before the game we were going to get anything from tonight Sunderland top side with better players than ours bad time to concede the 2 but 2nd half we improved my main concern going into the season defining next 3 fixtures is we can't seem to buy a goal at the moment let's hope we can cure this few positives tonight even though he conceded 3 Dimitar looks a far better keeper than Maxted, Sousa looked sharp and perhaps deserves a start non positives Conneely subbed yet again at half time can we afford to start him again in such crucial games who would be a manager.
 
Like you said andyd the next three fixtures are masive feel for conneely just coming back from injurie I feel for any player getting hooked of at half time but it had to be done.Richards a million miles of and as for Hughes he's gone I've seen fitter and quicker CBs on a Sunday morning not good.
 
I didn't think before the game we were going to get anything from tonight Sunderland top side with better players than ours bad time to concede the 2 but 2nd half we improved my main concern going into the season defining next 3 fixtures is we can't seem to buy a goal at the moment let's hope we can cure this few positives tonight even though he conceded 3 Dimitar looks a far better keeper than Maxted, Sousa looked sharp and perhaps deserves a start non positives Conneely subbed yet again at half time can we afford to start him again in such crucial games who would be a manager.

On reflection I think he took Seamus off for his own good he was awful yet again just not good enough for this level, he tries though so credit for that but please don't start him again on Saturday, for his sake and ours!
 
It was certainly a game of two halves as they say, The first half we had no answer to Sunderland. We did well to go in only 2-0 down. second half a couple of changes gave us a lift. We did have 3 chances in the game but again failed to score. I agree that a good deal of our players are not League 1 quality. I still think we will stay up by the skin of our teeth, We need more experienced players and a decent striker. Coley was trying to pick the positives which he has to do. I do think we will all be biting our nails until the last game of this season. Lets see what we can afford to buy, sell, in players, Tonight was a bad day at the office. Last Saturday a draw would have been fair. Billy's goal was good for me. Now we need wins and nothing else will do.
 
Chasing shadows for most of the game ,when we had the ball gave it away for fun,thought Conneely had a good first half bit surprised he was subbed, McConville ineffective yet again Souca changed the game and deserves a start.
 
Chasing shadows for most of the game ,when we had the ball gave it away for fun,thought Conneely had a good first half bit surprised he was subbed, McConville ineffective yet again Souca changed the game and deserves a start.

I’ve said it a million times but I’ll say it again. The way we set up the defensive midfield role is incredibly tough.
Scotty can’t do it neither can Seamus at the moment. Just getting out numbered and our opponents have sussed us out with the high press.
For everyone that says Seamus did ok there will be a dissenting voice.
If he’s out Saturday good luck to whoever gets the thankless task.
So if you keep Sousa in Mab that means leaving Clark on the bench because there’s no way McConvilles getting benched and personally I think he’s been poor for a while now. So have others before everyone goes for my jugular.
Up top zero is happening no matter which combination is put together.
All in all a bit of inspiration needed.
Pray to your God whatever denomination you are because Saturday is critical.
Don’t understand Rodgers being left out tonight.
If I had a choice this would be me Saturday.
Dimi
Rodgers Sykes Hughes
Johnson Finlay Conneely McConville
Clark
Kee Smyth
 
For my two pennorth, I thought our lads gave it a damn good go last night against a team who obviously have more quality than we do - disappointing result but hardly a surprise given the opposition who played much better than in our other games against them (they were probably still stinging from Sunday's defeat).
I at least came home feeling like I'd watched a good game unlike last Saturday!
To be honest, my only gripe was the 'fans' who thought it apt to boo our lads off at half time, what good does that do anyone? No need for it
 
I’ve said it a million times but I’ll say it again. The way we set up the defensive midfield role is incredibly tough.
Scotty can’t do it neither can Seamus at the moment. Just getting out numbered and our opponents have sussed us out with the high press.
For everyone that says Seamus did ok there will be a dissenting voice.
If he’s out Saturday good luck to whoever gets the thankless task.
So if you keep Sousa in Mab that means leaving Clark on the bench because there’s no way McConvilles getting benched and personally I think he’s been poor for a while now. So have others before everyone goes for my jugular.
Up top zero is happening no matter which combination is put together.
All in all a bit of inspiration needed.
Pray to your God whatever denomination you are because Saturday is critical.
Don’t understand Rodgers being left out tonight.
If I had a choice this would be me Saturday.
Dimi
Rodgers Sykes Hughes
Johnson Finlay Conneely McConville
Clark
Kee Smyth

I for one 28 agree about McConville was poor and has been for a while midfield enforcer we just haven't got one personally I think you could find room for both Sousa and Clark if we play like we did in the 2nd half in the next 3 games against poorer opposition we stand a chance of survival if not I fear the worse.
 
Yes man conneely was that good he got hooked of at half time Mmmm.


Where did I say he was good ?
He's still trying to get back to 100% after a nasty injury.
Equally I assume you understand the term tactical substitutions ?
He took off a defensive midfielder and a defender replacing them with an attacking midfielder and a winger.
Reason ? 2-0 down and chasing the game.
Coley's decision totally different if we come in only 1 down.
 
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I for one 28 agree about McConville was poor and has been for a while midfield enforcer we just haven't got one personally I think you could find room for both Sousa and Clark if we play like we did in the 2nd half in the next 3 games against poorer opposition we stand a chance of survival if not I fear the worse.


I just cant see Coley going that offensive mate especially away at Wimbledon but understand your reasoning.
 
Chasing shadows for most of the game ,when we had the ball gave it away for fun,

that was the main problem last night especially the first half with a side out that looked more like a side you,d send out for an away game to attempt to snatch a point. were sunderland that good or were we that bad. is the question. next three games for me will tell us which division we will be playing in next season and we need a more positive outlook than in the first half last night in them. at least clarke will be back but that will not help our central midfield failings.
 
Conneely was a million miles of it , as was hughes who struggles with any sort of pass in or around him or over the top of him , Callum Johnson looks a shadow of a player we had from last season. Sunderland a much better side than us if truth be told , billy Kee done well with what service he had an if him or Sean don’t score it doesent look like a goal will come from anywhere else on the park , Also thaught Smyth was innefective an got brushed of the ball far to easily last night.
 
On reflection I think he took Seamus off for his own good he was awful yet again just not good enough for this level, he tries though so credit for that but please don't start him again on Saturday, for his sake and ours!
Thats the problem when i saw the starting line up i thought we would get nowt,say what yeh want but J,C,has too many favourites as others said the second half for 15-20 mins we looked much better,though our distribution was abysmal.the best side by a country mile got the 3 pts, we need at least 6 or 7 pts fromnext 3 games i reckon K.T.F.
 
beaten by a much organised, direct team.

First goal - Janoi committed himself too easily out wide, him and sean both caught out of position and seamus and sam were left tracking back others as big ben hadn't cut inside, McGeady took the goal well but we shouldn't be giving a player of his ability that much space.
Second goal - Route 1 football really. Players caught out of position, no one gambling on the 2nd ball. Poor to concede that. Big Ben played the lad onside by a good few yards - not the first time Yozzer had screamed at him for doing so.

Third goal neither here nor there considering we had to push players further forward.

Subs at half time were the right call.
Thought Seamus played well but clearly fitness is an issue at present with him coming back from injury.
Big Ben started the half well but yet again caught out of position.

Can't fault Dimi for any of the goals. Think we are all in agreement he is our best keeper. Awful kicking but at least he doesn't spend an age like Maxted taking goal kicks.
Janoi looked like he had not played football in a decade.
Callum had little involvment which was a surprise. Don't think he touched the ball for about 20 minutes in the first half.
Ross was probably one of our better players, some good key tackles, distribution let him down, he always seems to rush and try and play a 60 yard diagonal ball.
Hughes let his emotions get to him. Must be frustrating telling Big Ben all game to get into position then concede from it. Needs to focus on his own game more than what the opposition are doing. Unlucky not to have won a penalty for shirt pulling end of second half, if only Sean could have delivered the ball near him maybe the ref would have been looking!
Not Sam's best game for us, would've liked him to of tried to impose himself a bit more in the game, get the ball deep and look to switch the ball out wide. Outclassed by ability but not by effort.
Sean actually had one of his better games for us in a while, thought he layed the ball off well out wide on edge of area. Tired and became sloppy towards end of game but think that was more down to players around him.
Smyth ran himself into the ground. Maybe should have tried dragging defenders wide but didn't have much time on the ball. Personally, felt he could of again tried imposing himself more on the game, especially after his MOM performance at Stadium of Light.
Billy again had to drop deeper and deeper due to our poor midfield. Held the ball up well and always looked to release Smyth/Sean/Erico. Probably should have been in the box more when we had the ball out wide but again can't fault his desire to get the ball and do something with it!

Surprised by how confident Erico is playing, beat his man well a few times but surprised he didn't use his pace more. Clearly should have used his left foot when 1 on 1 but in his defence, the ball took one hell of a bobble as he hit it. Impressed with him. Hope he gets more opportunity in next few games. No problem with keeping him as a squad player for the future, hopefully he keeps getting his chance.
Dan played a bit deeper than I thought he would of. Still think his best position is more attacking, if you give him a few balls on the edge of the area in a game, you'd hope at least 1 is going to either go in the back of the net or force the keeper into a good save. Something we have been lacking of late. Fancy footwork would probably work more on the edge of an opponents box (drawing a foul) but not 20 yards from our own goal!
Can't really offer much on Scotty apart from he does the simple stuff well. Sometimes that is more important that doing the hard stuff.

Sunderland was in my view looked at as a bonus game. If we had got something from it great, but I'm pleased we came through it with (hopefully) no injuries, and no silly red cards etc!

If we start the game on Saturday how we did the 2nd half last night, hopefully we can influence the 90 minutes in our favour.


I don't want us to try and match Wimbledon.
Make them do the work and match us.

KTF
 
Conneely was a million miles of it , as was hughes who struggles with any sort of pass in or around him or over the top of him , Callum Johnson looks a shadow of a player we had from last season. Sunderland a much better side than us if truth be told , billy Kee done well with what service he had an if him or Sean don’t score it doesent look like a goal will come from anywhere else on the park , Also thaught Smyth was innefective an got brushed of the ball far to easily last night.

thats the problem we have. too many players off form and you can add sean to the list as well. billy is expected to perform miracles and outjump lads inches taller than him with very little help. things need to change very quickly and coley has some real work to do the next couple of weeks to give us half a chance of staying up. my biggest fear is that if we do go down unless there is big changes in the playing staff the current side will struggle even if we do get relagated never mind stay up.
 
For me 28 big Ben shouldn't have started the game strange one that.Hooked of becouse clearly not good enough hope he doesn't start him at Wimbledon or we are in trouble.
 
Just watched the highlights on Sky Sports... Stanleywise there wasn't one !.
The truth being that there was , from the kick-off there was a sense of inevitability about the game and it's result due to the difference in class between the Reds and a very sharp, skilful, and well- motivated Sunderland team.
So given these facts is it true to say that the expected defeat doesnt matter that much ?.
Perhaps not, but one fact does shine out, that being that unless we are awarded a penalty we don't score goals !, and the ill-balanced team on show last night, with its dismal midfield
had little opportunity or chance to do this !.
Now, you've never heard me call Sean the Wunderkind ( ? ) but in spite of what some have opined earlier, his contributions of late and against Sunderland have been below League One standard !. (Sorry Accymad !.. but I've said it ! ). The team badly need an on-field leader and the lad just isn't one !, and sadly even the basic skills he once showed seem to have deteriorated!.. perhaps he will rise to the occasion for the next three games.. if not then the inevitability moves from last night's game to relegation !.

KTF... ON STANLEY ON !!.
 
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