17.. and Ive just started being taxed every week. (NOTE: I am not complaining. I dont mind paying the tax!) Paying £6.90 a week to a Government I am not even eligble to vote for. I think if you are taxed, you should have the right to vote. Or am I being silly?
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Hey, that's an extremely good point, however, believe you should be paying tax as you get the benefit of the services provided by this tax (you already admitted this, so no argument there). On the flip side, you do not have the benefit of voting for someone who would be involved in laying down the tax laws. Like it ... have some karma. xx
entwisi said:, I wish my tax bill was £6.90 a week!!!!!!!
Haha.. Yeah, like I said Im not complaining, suppose I will be when im paying a lot more lol.
katex said:
OooOoo.. thanks
I actually worked out that I probably pay £6.90 a DAY in tax purely to get to and from work!
(car tax, VAT on fuel, Insurance tax, VAT on tyres/exhausts etc)
Actually I paid pretty much zero income tax last year due to some very nice tax efficient investments(40% relief on the whole investment)
(car tax, VAT on fuel, Insurance tax, VAT on tyres/exhausts etc)
Actually I paid pretty much zero income tax last year due to some very nice tax efficient investments(40% relief on the whole investment)
You are lucky to be paying so little tax from your wage. My tax deduction makes me wince every month..
As your wage and tax deduction increases you may start to feel embittered by the fact that your hard earned tax is paying for the same services for people who don't want to work and pass that shirk ethic on to their kids. You will not mind your tax going to people who genuinely can't work for medical reasons, you will not mind contributing to the care of the elderly, but the lazy gits out there, with no medical problems, who know their way around the system and claim for everything will really get up your nose..... Welcome to the world of the tax payer..
As your wage and tax deduction increases you may start to feel embittered by the fact that your hard earned tax is paying for the same services for people who don't want to work and pass that shirk ethic on to their kids. You will not mind your tax going to people who genuinely can't work for medical reasons, you will not mind contributing to the care of the elderly, but the lazy gits out there, with no medical problems, who know their way around the system and claim for everything will really get up your nose..... Welcome to the world of the tax payer..makes a change for a young un not to be complaining, and i think its an extremly good point, also some of our unfortunate young uns,may get killed/injured in the forces abroad and they may well be to young to vote! to me theres summat wrong here.morgan_brotherz said:
cashman said:
Errr......not quite. Although a youngster can join the forces at 16 (junior level), and at 17 1/2 senior level, they now have to be 18 before they can be deployed in an operational theatre (Iraq, 'Gan,)
The wider debate is why we are now having to pay the amount of taxes (both direct & indirect) that we have to do and to what extent is a) the money well spent or b) just p*ssed away or c) not spent but should be spent, i.e. on things like border control.
You raise a good and valid point morgan_brotherz. So no, you are not being silly. Have some Karma to take you over 50.
However it could also be argued that if you are old enough to pay tax and thus vote then you are old enough to join the armed forces and go into combat.
I know that you can join the armed forces as a boy seaman or airman or soldier but you don’t get sent abroad to fight under the age of 18. You may have to parry bombs and missiles in this country though but the so would the rest of us.
I don’t suppose that conscription will ever come into force again but how would a 17 years old feel about having to go and fight and probably get killed?
In my view no one under the age of 18 should be eligible to pay Income Tax on earned income.
However it could also be argued that if you are old enough to pay tax and thus vote then you are old enough to join the armed forces and go into combat.
I know that you can join the armed forces as a boy seaman or airman or soldier but you don’t get sent abroad to fight under the age of 18. You may have to parry bombs and missiles in this country though but the so would the rest of us.
I don’t suppose that conscription will ever come into force again but how would a 17 years old feel about having to go and fight and probably get killed?
In my view no one under the age of 18 should be eligible to pay Income Tax on earned income.
Welcome to the grown world , just be glad you live in the UK , if you lived here in the US you could be at executed in some states for crimes committed before your 18th birthday , yep it's true the law says we can execute children, just wait until they turn 18. Even if you are in the military and have served your country overseas (maybe even lost a limb or two) you would not be able to buy an alcoholic drink anywhere in the U S till you reach the age of 21, how the Govt. can justify such a law I have no idea , guess it's because both this and the previous President are both reformed drunks (oops, sorry, Both were victims and suffered substance abuse in their younger years)
Good luck in the years ahead
Good luck in the years ahead
It seems ironic that before the age of 18 you can pay tax NI and die for your country but you are not considered to have the right to vote. If you are considered man enough and mature enough to die foe Queen and country you should be man enough to vote. Maybe it is time for change but how many 18 year olds actually vote? I cherish the fact I can vote and always have done since turning 18.
SPUGGIE J said:
When I am eligible to vote I probably won't because I take no interest in politics, but that's personal choice. People should at least be given the choice to vote or not if we are being taxed & paying the salary's of all these armani's being voted in!
You are taxed from the day you are born. You may not pay income tax, unless you have a considerable income from birth, but everything you buy with your bit of pocket money has been subject to VAT somewhere along the line.
You can't vote until you are 18 (it was 21 in my day) but you can drive a car. Every time you put a litre of petrol in that car you are paying tax, even if you're a student or unemployed and not paying income tax. You buy a CD, a DVD, an i-pod, a pair of jeans, it's all subject to tax.
I do think, however, that the present tax rates and allowances should be altered. A personal allowance of £10K a year would mean a lot of young people wouldn't be taxed and a top rate of 50% for earnings over £100K a year would make up for much of it.
You can't vote until you are 18 (it was 21 in my day) but you can drive a car. Every time you put a litre of petrol in that car you are paying tax, even if you're a student or unemployed and not paying income tax. You buy a CD, a DVD, an i-pod, a pair of jeans, it's all subject to tax.
I do think, however, that the present tax rates and allowances should be altered. A personal allowance of £10K a year would mean a lot of young people wouldn't be taxed and a top rate of 50% for earnings over £100K a year would make up for much of it.
That has always been the part of being Taxed in England that I never got . even when I left school and started working. it was ok for me to be taxed to pay for what the government wants yet i can't have a say in how things should be run. I think it is time England made up it's mind about when we become adults. if you can pay taxes then you can Vote . if you can't vote then you don't pay taxes. simple. just a thought.