Taxed.

Tealeaf said:
Errr......not quite. Although a youngster can join the forces at 16 (junior level), and at 17 1/2 senior level, they now have to be 18 before they can be deployed in an operational theatre (Iraq, 'Gan,)

The wider debate is why we are now having to pay the amount of taxes (both direct & indirect) that we have to do and to what extent is a) the money well spent or b) just p*ssed away or c) not spent but should be spent, i.e. on things like border control.
stand corrected on that point tea, was thinking more of how many under 18s lost lives/limbs in the world wars? albeit they lied about their ages to enlist, they wernt old enough to vote.
 
West Ender said:
You are taxed from the day you are born. You may not pay income tax, unless you have a considerable income from birth, but everything you buy with your bit of pocket money has been subject to VAT somewhere along the line.

Apart from DutyFree yeah?
 
:| I cant believe it. I thought £6.90 a week was bad for a person of my age.. but I was infact WRONG about the amount I was paying each week! Just got wage slip and its £18 a week!!

This is ridiculous for a person of 17. Is there not anything one can do to re-claim it or anything? Student crap and all that?

The funny thing is.. paying £18 a week tax.. and £19 a week bus fare for college as I dont qualify for Education Maintenence Allowance.. so in other words I could be paying £18 a week to fund other low life's who cant be arsed working and get benefits such as EMA?!

This country sucks.
 
morgan_brotherz said:
The funny thing is.. paying £18 a week tax.. and £19 a week bus fare for college as I dont qualify for Education Maintenence Allowance.. so in other words I could be paying £18 a week to fund other low life's who cant be arsed working and get benefits such as EMA?!
Hold on there you little ****, EMA is based on your household income, you qualify for it if your household earns less than £30k a year - so everyone under that salary band is a lowlife layabout?
 
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Shaker can see what he is getting at and though tactless putting in EMA maybe he should have put JSA and IB. I to hate paying tax when I know people who refuse to work because they are better off not working. Me at the mo would be better of unemployed but have too much pride not to and things change.
 
morgan_brotherz said:
:| I cant believe it. I thought £6.90 a week was bad for a person of my age.. but I was infact WRONG about the amount I was paying each week! Just got wage slip and its £18 a week!!

This is ridiculous for a person of 17. Is there not anything one can do to re-claim it or anything? Student crap and all that?

The funny thing is.. paying £18 a week tax.. and £19 a week bus fare for college as I dont qualify for Education Maintenence Allowance.. so in other words I could be paying £18 a week to fund other low life's who cant be arsed working and get benefits such as EMA?!

This country sucks.
If you're in full time education you're eligable for a tax refund. Ask at work/bank.

Ps. If someone lived with one parent who was a teacher earning £29,999 are they lowlifes?
 
morgan_brotherz said:
:| I cant believe it. I thought £6.90 a week was bad for a person of my age.. but I was infact WRONG about the amount I was paying each week! Just got wage slip and its £18 a week!!

This is ridiculous for a person of 17. Is there not anything one can do to re-claim it or anything? Student crap and all that?



If you're in permanent employment I'm afraid there's nothing you can claim back. Unfortunately age doesn't come into it, it's based purely on annual income. You have a personal allowance of £5035, income that's free of tax, then you pay 10% on the next £2150 and 22% on anything above that up to £33300, on any balance over that amount you'll pay 40%.

I can sympathise with what you're saying, that you're taxed when you can't vote etc. The only thing I can say is, when you're 18 and have the Vote, go for the Party that you think will introduce a fairer system - if you can find one. Good luck!
 
We are stuck with taxes but the worst about it is the system has enough loopholes that those with serious money can avoid paying large amounts. Maybe if the tax system was an even playing field then we might not worry so much about it as we would pay less.
 
Don’t forget your National Insurance contributions morgan_brotherz. They too go to pay the ‘low life layabout’ as you put it.

However thanks for tarring everyone with the same brush. I’m sure that the 1.6m unemployed will be gratified to know that they all belong to a particular group - namely ‘low life layabouts’.

By the way who do you think paid for your education and medical expenses so far? You are now paying some of that back.

If this country sucks then find a greener pasture elsewhere.
Sort yourself out you nob.
Was it really necessary to make such a disparaging remark shakermaker? It destroyed the impact of your post.

The problem with taxation is that first of all the government of any colour WASTES huge chunks of it and secondly there are so many different forms of taxation, each with its own administration, that more huge chunks are wasted in collecting the money.

We only need one form of taxation and that is VAT on every single product or service that is bought. Rich or poor we all have to buy things so EVERYONE without exception would pay their share of the tax. The saving on bureaucracy could probably settle the national debt although it would put a couple of million civil servants on the dole. Better to pay them dole than huge salaries. It would be cheaper for us the taxpayer.
 
shakermaker said:
Hold on there you little ****, EMA is based on your household income, you qualify for it if your household earns less than £30k a year - so everyone under that salary band is a lowlife layabout?

I said "fund other low life's who cant be arsed working and get benefits" and one of them benefits is EMA. I wasnt paticularly basing on EMA which is why I said SUCH AS.

And please dont bother telling me the rules & regulations of the EMA system.. Ive been through them so many times I know them off the back of my hand. You little ****.
 
jambutty said:
Don’t forget your National Insurance contributions morgan_brotherz. They too go to pay the ‘low life layabout’ as you put it.

However thanks for tarring everyone with the same brush. I’m sure that the 1.6m unemployed will be gratified to know that they all belong to a particular group - namely ‘low life layabouts’.


Can we please get one thing straight first. I didnt say 'layabouts'. Not that it makes any consolation. I still said lowlifes.

Sort yourself out you nob

It appears that the post has been deleted.. but it just shows what a 'little' **** he is. Grow up.
 
Maybe it was wrong to say lowlifes...but i still get annoyed by the fact students get money for nothing.....ie. EMA.
They don't take into consideration how much your parents are willing to give you for your studies at all........I earn around £120 a month from a saturday job and use £40 of that on my bills....and sometimes the remaining goes on book fee's, lunch money...etc....i mean...my bus pass for the whole year was £250....my mum paid £100 and i paid for the other £150, because frankly I don't expect my parents should have to pay for MY bus pass...but money from EMA could have been useful.
I have a few friends that get EMA......and most do not use that money for college purposes....then at the end of the year they get £100 bonus....for what?....don't others deserve that bonus too?
I can live with it obviously......just sometimes it does touch a nerve how that money could be so useful to me but others just use it for leisure purposes.
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I stand corrected morgan_brotherz, you did not state layabout. It just goes to show how easily an issue can get twisted around a bit when someone misquotes and someone else (me) quotes the misquote and so it rolls on. My apologies for doing so.
It appears that the post has been deleted.. but it just shows what a 'little' **** he is. Grow up.
Hmmm! Interesting response! A 17 years old telling someone else to grow up.

Welcome to the real world ploppysirplooppy where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and fight over the few scraps of comfort that come their way.
 
Hmmm! Interesting response! A 17 years old telling someone else to grow up.

If im not mistaken, he is also 17.

And I agree Ploppysirploppy. The £100 bonus is quite annoying. Especially when everyone was bragging about it at Christmas and your like "oh..well" =[ "ol
 
jambutty said:
I stand corrected morgan_brotherz, you did not state layabout. It just goes to show how easily an issue can get twisted around a bit when someone misquotes and someone else (me) quotes the misquote and so it rolls on. My apologies for doing so.
Hmmm! Interesting response! A 17 years old telling someone else to grow up.

Welcome to the real world ploppysirplooppy where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and fight over the few scraps of comfort that come their way.

I sometimes think you're living in some made up world. How many people have become middle class from working class in the last 25years? Things have got better and will continue to get better. If you want want eduction, if you want a job, if you want to be sucessfull, you can damn well do it and nothing but lazyness is stopping people.
 
morgan_brotherz said:
If im not mistaken, he is also 17.

And I agree Ploppysirploppy. The £100 bonus is quite annoying. Especially when everyone was bragging about it at Christmas and your like "oh..well" =[ "ol

Get a grip.:rolleyes:
My original post included bad language, I apologize.
However your responses subsequently have been laughable - telling me to grow up when your own posts include swearing.
Your hypocrisy amuses me no end.

Anyway, back to thread, why are you moaning about people in less fortunate positions than yourself gaining benefit?
This isn't spare money you know, it goes to bus fares & lunches at college/6th form, which is not needed for you as you are obviously in a fortunate position not to need this funding.
 
Just because the household income is less than £30,000 it doesnt necessarly mean they are less fortunate. And not all £30 a week goes to bus fares & lunches..

What about the £100 bonus at Christmas? Is that to catch the bus to college when its closed over the Christmas period.. just incase your having slight college withdrawl symptoms? Or to buy lots of prezzies and have a booze up over the festive period?

And please do stick to the thread topic, im tired of reading your little pointless speeches.
 
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