Taxed.

I first started paying tax when I was twenty one. I started working at Christmas, at the end of the tax year, so for a while I didn't have to pay any tax until I reached my tax allowance. It was a real shock when they started taking a quarter of my salary away. What a cheek.

I remember getting very angry that single people have to pay more than married people with children. I got less back from the State than all the breeders, so thought I quite rightly should have had to pay less. Oh what innocent, naive days they were for me back then.:)
 
morgan_brotherz said:
Just because the household income is less than £30,000 it doesnt necessarly mean they are less fortunate.
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Obviously it does mean people who receive the benefit are less fortunate than you if your household earns more than the higher bracket.
Work it out. :bangh8:

morgan_brotherz said:
What about the £100 bonus at Christmas? Is that to catch the bus to college when its closed over the Christmas period.. just incase your having slight college withdrawl symptoms? Or to buy lots of prezzies and have a booze up over the festive period?
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Nice attempt at a sense of humour! Too bad it didn't pay off.
Newsflash kid - materials run out :eek: and a shopping trip to get everything you need for the next term can easily run into 3 figures.

It is obvious that even with your tax cuts you can afford to go through college, why does it bother you so that people receive an aid so they are able to attend college & are able to have the necessary tools?
Your greed astounds me.
 
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"Obviously it does mean people who receive the benefit are less fortunate than you if your household earns more than the higher bracket"

'Less fortunate' yes...but that sounds as if they can't live without benefits or something........ but i agree with morgan_brotherz.....it hardly means they're less fortunate...my friends on EMA...she lives the same life style as me at the moment without EMA as it's the end of the college year....so...hmmm...

"why does it bother you so that people receive an aid so they are able to attend college & are able to have the necessary tools?"

It annoys me, and probably other students too, such as morgan_brotherz.....half of these students who recieve EMA don;t use that money towards college fund....they see it as money for nothing....like i've explained in my previous post....so i won;t repeat myself
And as for the christmas bonus...see previous post also.
Lea
x

PS...i'm here so late because i cant sleep
 
All this ping pong over grants has got me wondering about what happens when you decide that you need a nice Uni degree. Considering that the Uni system is in a mess funding wise does that mean you would want a place at a Scottish Uni which has a lot less hassle and more help available because of the tuition fee senario.
 
ploppysirploppy said:
'Less fortunate' yes...but that sounds as if they can't live without benefits or something........ but i agree with morgan_brotherz.....it hardly means they're less fortunate...my friends on EMA...she lives the same life style as me at the moment without EMA as it's the end of the college year....so...hmmm...
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Thats the exact point I was getting too. My friends who revieve EMA live the exact same lifestyle as me, except they have an extra £30 quid in their pocket a week - free.

Nice attempt at a sense of humour! Too bad it didn't pay off.
Newsflash kid - materials run out :eek: and a shopping trip to get everything you need for the next term can easily run into 3 figures.
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Thats funny.. I didnt need to spend anything really when going back to college after Christmas, what materials are we talking?.. pens & pencils at 99p a pack? Or a new stylish bag for £40?.. you tell me, because when buying materials for the next term runs in to three figures I really do think they would need to review their prices at Stationery Box.

Bus down Accy - £1
Pen - 17p
Folder? £2.00
Writing Pad - £1

What else could you possibly want/need? Thats £4.14 there. Wow.. were nearly reaching three figures already. :rolleyes:
 
morgan_brotherz, I know that the £100 bonus wouldn't all be spent on pens & paper.
That's obvious.
My point was that things such as clothes & shoes would need to be bought around christmas (especially expensive when at 6th form grammar schools with a dress code like mine) - you know aswellas I that teenagers' growth spurts are annoying & unprecedented and clothes that could have fit when bought in the summer would not in the new year.
& whereas your household could afford to replace these essentials without a grant, many could not.

I agree that the grants should be made to be used for college stuff, eg bus fares, lunches etc.
I too get annoyed at people who abuse the grant for personal/un-work related use.
 
shakermaker said:
morgan_brotherz, I know that the £100 bonus wouldn't all be spent on pens & paper.
That's obvious.
My point was that things such as clothes & shoes would need to be bought around christmas (especially expensive when at 6th form grammar schools with a dress code like mine) - you know aswellas I that teenagers' growth spurts are annoying & unprecedented and clothes that could have fit when bought in the summer would not in the new year.
& whereas your household could afford to replace these essentials without a grant, many could not.

I agree that the grants should be made to be used for college stuff, eg bus fares, lunches etc.
I too get annoyed at people who abuse the grant for personal/un-work related use.
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I'm told there are exercises you can do which will stunt your growth, and thus save youngsters money.:D
 
garinda said:
I'm told there are exercises you can do which will stunt your growth, and thus save youngsters money.:D
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Bit late mate I'm 6"1 and still going!!

I've even resorted to making extra cash by renting out my legs to Cyfr at weekends :D
 
katex said:
Hey, that's an extremely good point, however, believe you should be paying tax as you get the benefit of the services provided by this tax (you already admitted this, so no argument there). On the flip side, you do not have the benefit of voting for someone who would be involved in laying down the tax laws. Like it ... have some karma. xx
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Not relevant.

"No taxation without representation" is a basic tenet of modern democracy.

Large sections of society can't vote but are major users of public services
 
entwisi said:
I actually worked out that I probably pay £6.90 a DAY in tax purely to get to and from work!

(car tax, VAT on fuel, Insurance tax, VAT on tyres/exhausts etc)

Actually I paid pretty much zero income tax last year due to some very nice tax efficient investments(40% relief on the whole investment)
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You actually spent time working that out, you need more hobbies ( or more work to do at work :D )
 
It's true that the only things certain in life are death and taxes. The more you earn, the more you pay. Sadly, as Lettie says, there are and always will be those who will not pay because they won't work. So those of us who are conscientious have to pay their share as well.

Complaining that it isn't fair is not productive. Life isn't fair. Live with it.
 
pendy said:
It's true that the only things certain in life are death and taxes. The more you earn, the more you pay. Sadly, as Lettie says, there are and always will be those who will not pay because they won't work. So those of us who are conscientious have to pay their share as well.

Complaining that it isn't fair is not productive. Life isn't fair. Live with it.
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I seriously hope your message wasnt aimed at me? Because if you actually read my first post you would see that I clearly stated that I am NOT complaining!
 
morgan_brotherz said:
I seriously hope your message wasnt aimed at me? Because if you actually read my first post you would see that I clearly stated that I am NOT complaining!
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Stop complaining about not complaining.:D
 
garinda said:
Stop complaining about not complaining.:D
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And you .. stop complaining about people complaining about not complaining .. did I get that right ?
 
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