Just a question: is that Peel Park in the foreground? Stanley's old ground?
The Coppice
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Just a question: is that Peel Park in the foreground? Stanley's old ground?
yep Eric, with the peel park boozer just behind, obviously taken after the ground was closed.
yep Eric, with the peel park boozer just behind, obviously taken after the ground was closed.
I think I figured out the last bit myself
That's because we are old fogeys who grew up with a pre-tree Coppice in our childhood whereas you young uns only know it as it now is.
probably cos they are horrible,worse than triffids
if nice trees had been planted more sparingly, it would have probably enhanced the coppice n many would not then bitch.
I've been up the coppice once, and I dont recall the view or the trees. I kind of recall a view of a motorway though
how likely is it you'd even bother to go up to the top of coppice whether they cut some trees down or not. I've never seen you show an interest in the outdoors in the time that i've known you, unless you are a different god mother to the one that I know
ya what im always going for walks!!
cheeky sod
i love the countryside
I expected you to call me a cheeky bitch but I thought I would wait and see what the response was, and I wasn't far off. I just can't imagine you taking time out to actually walk up the coppice, and I'm not saying I can be bothered either, so it makes two of us.
As an outsider with no previous knowledge other than in the last two years.
Get rid of the trees, plant native species.
Get rid of the horrible brick shelter, or replace it with a brick shelter that has decorative brick ends, perhaps with a oak tree design carved into them.
the monument needs restoring and making the centre piece of a bigger monument which should have been done as part of the panoptican project. When permission was refused, the artist brief should have been changed.
Put the monument at the centre, have radial paths coming out with blue led lines in, each leading to a bench or a standing stone. You wouldn't need big stones, you could use squares as big as the centre stone of the existing monument. Get local people to carve designs that say what Accrington or the coppice is all about to them, you'd hold local stone carving sessions to do that. Micheal Disley does stone carving workshops.You could do the benches like that too, bigger oblongs carved on all four sides. Do some carvings past, some present. All lit up by white led up lighters. Your only limit is your budget. I don't think you're likely to get the sort of figure required to do that sort of project now, which is a shame because people clearly want something.
End of the day it's YOUR coppice n what i can't understand is why when the panoptican project was rejected was you not asked what YOU want and more suggestions and design briefs put out based on what was suggested.
Get rid of the trees, plant native species.
Get rid of the horrible brick shelter, or replace it with a brick shelter that has decorative brick ends, perhaps with a oak tree design carved into them.
the monument needs restoring and making the centre piece of a bigger monument which should have been done as part of the panoptican project. When permission was refused, the artist brief should have been changed.
Put the monument at the centre, have radial paths coming out with blue led lines in, each leading to a bench or a standing stone. You wouldn't need big stones, you could use squares as big as the centre stone of the existing monument. Get local people to carve designs that say what Accrington or the coppice is all about to them, you'd hold local stone carving sessions to do that. Micheal Disley does stone carving workshops.You could do the benches like that too, bigger oblongs carved on all four sides. Do some carvings past, some present. All lit up by white led up lighters. Your only limit is your budget. I don't think you're likely to get the sort of figure required to do that sort of project now, which is a shame because people clearly want something.
End of the day it's YOUR coppice n what i can't understand is why when the panoptican project was rejected was you not asked what YOU want and more suggestions and design briefs put out based on what was suggested.
You have just come up with some far better suggestions than the 'official' artistic ones we were offered.
However, not being a local you wouldn't realise the the monument is close to the edge at the front of the Coppice so you couldn't have it in the centre of something but you could certainly have it as the focal point of something semi-circular. Your bench and shelter suggestions sound good but the trees would apparently present another problem as the top soil is too thin for the native species which is why they planted those hideous things which are currently there. I'm told that if it had been left bare then even more top soil would have eroded away. I still don't like them though.
But would like to see something similar to what you have described for the monument benches and shelter though. Maybe we should have a design competition for local residents.
Mind you when they had a design competition for a new Coat of Arms 30 odd years ago when Hyndburn was formed I won that and then they decided not to bother using it!
However, not being a local you wouldn't realise the the monument is close to the edge at the front of the Coppice so you couldn't have it in the centre of something but you could certainly have it as the focal point of something semi-circular. Your bench and shelter suggestions sound good but the trees would apparently present another problem as the top soil is too thin for the native species which is why they planted those hideous things which are currently there. I'm told that if it had been left bare then even more top soil would have eroded away. I still don't like them though.
But would like to see something similar to what you have described for the monument benches and shelter though. Maybe we should have a design competition for local residents.
Mind you when they had a design competition for a new Coat of Arms 30 odd years ago when Hyndburn was formed I won that and then they decided not to bother using it!