The next five years
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Deary,Deary me, but aren't we the prophet of Doom & Gloom this morning ? 
You never know you may be surprised at what happens, & if you're truly honest, life under labour wasn't all Beer & skittles now was it ? well one good thing Labour has now got its first female leader (although temporary) My aren't you the lucky ones ! Harriet (Harridan) Harman
Now why does the expression "frying pans & fire" spring to mind ???
Harman takes over until next leader is chosen - UK Politics, UK - The Independent
You never know you may be surprised at what happens, & if you're truly honest, life under labour wasn't all Beer & skittles now was it ? well one good thing Labour has now got its first female leader (although temporary) My aren't you the lucky ones ! Harriet (Harridan) Harman
Now why does the expression "frying pans & fire" spring to mind ???
Harman takes over until next leader is chosen - UK Politics, UK - The Independent
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Sorry ! Must correct myself, 1994 you had the marvelous Ms Margaret Beckett at the helm ! You can certainly pick 'em ! 
So in actual fact, Harridan Harman is your 2nd female leader ! What a shining example the Labour Party is to equality ! 
So in actual fact, Harridan Harman is your 2nd female leader ! What a shining example the Labour Party is to equality !
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We? .. who are you talking about? the "We" who do not want a Goverment that robs the less well off in order to keep those better off in comfort when they tell us times are hard?.. stay in Germany you scouse Tory tosser and reap your rewards from far off ..Mein FuhrerSorry ! Must correct myself, 1994 you had the marvelous Ms Margaret Beckett at the helm ! You can certainly pick 'em !
Sorry ! Must correct myself, 1994 you had the marvelous Ms Margaret Beckett at the helm ! You can certainly pick 'em !
I'm sure Bessie Bradock and Barbara Castle are rolling in their graves when they look down/up at whats become of the Labour Party
I'm sure Bessie Bradock and Barbara Castle are rolling in their graves when they look down/up at whats become of the Labour Party
you mean after what blair did to them
new labour i cant belive its not tory
at least brown kept some form of control over the prick but by the time he got into power blair had done too much damage
i predict another million on the dole by christmas..
facts are facts in their manifesto they are going to cut sure start nmw civil servants every good thing that labour did.only god thing is they cant sell the new schools and hospitals off oh and zach ho ho if the tories werent back by murdoch and co they would have a field day..
facts are facts in their manifesto they are going to cut sure start nmw civil servants every good thing that labour did.only god thing is they cant sell the new schools and hospitals off oh and zach ho ho if the tories werent back by murdoch and co they would have a field day..the torys may not be able to sell the new hospitals but they can neglect to fund them or equip them.
wont be long before were back to people dying in hospital corridoors on trollys waiting for a hospital bed
funding to the north will be cut first as it is well documented cameron hates the north
when the cuts start coming will be the time we will see what level of influence if any clegg and his party have in policy
wont be long before were back to people dying in hospital corridoors on trollys waiting for a hospital bed
funding to the north will be cut first as it is well documented cameron hates the north
when the cuts start coming will be the time we will see what level of influence if any clegg and his party have in policy
We? .. who are you talking about? the "We" who do not want a Goverment that robs the less well off in order to keep those better off in comfort when they tell us times are hard?.. stay in Germany you scouse Tory tosser and reap your rewards from far off ..Mein Fuhrer
Mancie, Mancie, Mancie, If you look it is not a purely Tory government, to get what they want they have had to make concessions to the Lib/Dems to achieve their aim. That being the case Cameron & his crew aren't going to have free rein to do as they please because Clegg & his mates will constantly be looking over the Torys shoulder to see what they're upto.
Conservative - Liberal Democrat deal will be tough on the rich - Telegraph
As to staying in Germany, that was my intention ! I've had over 26 years here & have quite happily settled. I have no intention of returning to UK to stay until there has been a drastic turnaround in the Countries fortunes & administration, irrespective of which political party may be in power at that time. Mancie, I take no offense at your tirade but find that offensive comments & abuse are the last resort of the inarticulate Scoundrel
inarticulate Scoundrel !Mancie, Mancie, Mancie, If you look it is not a purely Tory government, to get what they want they have had to make concessions to the Lib/Dems to achieve their aim. That being the case Cameron & his crew aren't going to have free rein to do as they please because Clegg & his mates will constantly be looking over the Torys shoulder to see what they're upto.
Conservative - Liberal Democrat deal will be tough on the rich - Telegraph
As to staying in Germany, that was my intention ! I've had over 26 years here & have quite happily settled. I have no intention of returning to UK to stay until there has been a drastic turnaround in the Countries fortunes & administration, irrespective of which political party may be in power at that time. Mancie, I take no offense at your tirade but find that offensive comments & abuse are the last resort of the inarticulate Scoundrel
big words are the last resort of a Tory..sort yer mum out!
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And a very nice day to you too !! 
inarticulate Scoundrel !
Actually no ! just someone who's had a reasonable level of education in normal schools & that under various Governments.
Unlike yourself who probably attended a special School Do stop licking those windows there's a good Lad it makes them all smeary !Sorry mate just can't resist.. I'll lick the windows..and like I said.. sort yer Mum out lar..Do stop licking those windows there's a good Lad
We? .. who are you talking about? the "We" who do not want a Goverment that robs the less well off in order to keep those better off in comfort when they tell us times are hard?.. stay in Germany you scouse Tory tosser and reap your rewards from far off ..Mein Fuhrer
Gordon Brown was labour was he not?...he robbed me.....of pension money and then to add insult to injury he slapped me with a double tax bill.....(when the tax rate went up from 10p in the pound to 20p in the pound) is that looking after the poorer members of society? Because I don't think it is.
I am not Tory, I am not Labour, I am not Liberal/democrat.
I just want a party that will do the right thing.....not rob the tax payers and smile while they are doing it...and try to prevent us( the electorate) from finding out about the fraud that was going on with expenses.
We are in this unholy mess because Labour took the regulation of the banks away from the bank of England....and placed it in the hands of the toothless,ineffectual FSA.
The labour government knew 7 months before the doo-doo hit the fan that there were severe problems with the banking system...but did nothing(or at least, nothing that we are aware of).
The Labour government have made it an easy option for immigrants to come here and claim benefits that they have not earned.
Dear Gordon told Mrs Duffy that a million people left Britain each year to go to European countries.....maybe they did, but they went there with some financial plan of how to support themselves....they did not go overseas to claim benefits as soon as they got over the doorstep.
I am sick of hearing about families that come here and get large houses cars, and all the mod cons...funded by us.....the tax payer.
That is not to say that I want the genuinely vulnerable to be denied help.
We need a huge shake up of the welfare system......and claiming benefits should not be seen as a lifetime support/career option.
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Ok Margaret there will always be a few people claiming benefits that maybe shafting the system but that does not justify a wholesale reduction on benefits, and lets be clear there will be no increase for those you say are in need, the Tories will squeeze all incomes of the less well off.. ALL.
As far as immigrants coming here simply to claim benifits you are sick of hearing about families that get large houses,cars and all the mod cons... can I ask you how many immigrant families you know of personally that do this?.. that is apart from those reported in the Sun or Daily Mail?... I do not believe whole families travel half way across the world for the sake of a few quid.
The Tories make no distinction of where you come from or where you have been.. they will lower the living standards of the poor but maintain the standards of the wealthy..when they say we have to make sacrifices you can be sure it will not be the rich that pay.. that is certain.
As far as immigrants coming here simply to claim benifits you are sick of hearing about families that get large houses,cars and all the mod cons... can I ask you how many immigrant families you know of personally that do this?.. that is apart from those reported in the Sun or Daily Mail?... I do not believe whole families travel half way across the world for the sake of a few quid.
The Tories make no distinction of where you come from or where you have been.. they will lower the living standards of the poor but maintain the standards of the wealthy..when they say we have to make sacrifices you can be sure it will not be the rich that pay.. that is certain.
Mancie, 5 years, I don't think so. Sit back and watch it unravel. We're not throwing any posters away by the way. We think they might be needed in the not to distant future.
Ah Robert Owen speaks
There are more than just a few people claiming benefits....there are whole communities where there are very few working families......Knowsley has an area that is benefits dependent......and Rochdale has areas that are maintained by the benefits system......as for your question on how many people do I know who are immigrants and claiming for a big house etc, etc.......well the answer is that I personally do not know any, but the fact that they exist......and they have been in more papers than just the Sun and the Daily Mail...is a travesty.
Take Asylum Seekers for instance.....if their lives are in danger then I agree that they should be given asylum in the first country they reach that will accommodate them....so how come they all want to move to the UK....the answer is the slack benefits system....they know they can come here and every need will be accounted for........without them having put a penny into the pot that pays them out......in fact, as an asylum seeker you cannot work or pay taxes until you have been given refugee status.
The english taxpayer is being milked dry...and it is time for someone to step up to the plate and shake up the system so that it supports those who need support, but not those who can work, but don't want to...because benefits are more lucrative.
Mancie, don't tell me that this doesn't make sense.
We have not got a bottomless pot of money some constraints have got to be applied.
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