The Olympics

I’m not personally into sport these days (maybe a bit of backyard cricket now and then) and so I don’t listen to many sports’ commentators but when I have, I have to admit I am not that into females talking about the games that have been, or are being, played by blokes. On the other hand, I prefer females commentating on games that are being played by females rather than men doing this. In both these examples it somehow sounds more ‘professional’ and that they do actually know what they are talking about.

I would also rather listen to a weather report from someone who actually knows a lot about meteorological matters, and I must admit I prefer this to be a man. Sorry if I have put the feminine movement back a few years but that’s my opinion.
 
Guinness said:
The problem at the moment is the box tickers…all the females I mentioned know their stuff and are good broadcasters, so much so that gender is irrelevant.

What is happening now is our current ‘woke’ box ticking producers in an attempt at showing that they are inclusive, are throwing females who obviously know their stuff into hi-profile positions but, like bad teachers, they cannot communicate and it’s sticking out like a sore thumb.

And if I posted something like this on twitter I’d be cancelled
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some of the women doing football now are fine. the problem is that they would still be doing it if they were not or replaced by another woman till they eventually got it right. when they did that going round the grounds thing on a sunday in the fa cup there did seem to be more and more women involved in it. do not have any interest in the womens game of any team sports but wonder if there is as big a male imput as there is female in the male game. i know that games at the top of the womens football now have a all female officials and then they cannot wait to promote a token female in the mens game either. when the womens game gets as many playing it and watch it live as the mens one even with the constant publicity it gets, then i hope women commentators are at a minimum instead of looking like a growth industry like it now does.
 
Guinness said:
You’ve hit on something here Margaret.

Female pundits have been around for 40+ years…from Billie Jean King talking tennis and Rachel Heyhoe Flint talking cricket in the 70’s and more recently Gabby Logan on football and Claire Balding on the horses. Sue Barker successfully replaced that doyen of sports broadcasting David Coleman on Question of Sport and presented Sports Personality of the Year a few times.

The problem at the moment is the box tickers…all the females I mentioned know their stuff and are good broadcasters, so much so that gender is irrelevant.

What is happening now is our current ‘woke’ box ticking producers in an attempt at showing that they are inclusive, are throwing females who obviously know their stuff into hi-profile positions but, like bad teachers, they cannot communicate and it’s sticking out like a sore thumb.

And if I posted something like this on twitter I’d be cancelled
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I watch a fair bit of horse racing, the pundits seem to be a fifty fifty split of both male and female, they all know far more than I, especially after a race when they can give me very solid reasons for why I shouldn't have backed the horse I did, (I wish they were that forthcoming before I put my money down), however one of the ladies does get a little overexcited now and then, this shows when her voice becomes so shrill it causes feedback in my hearing aids, most uncomfortable.
Fortunately the race commentators still seem to be male dominated I think the masculine tones are a preference in a tense and exciting situation.

Women? Football commentators? pass the smelling salts Grandma, the whalebone in this corset is sticking in my ribs again!
 
Guinness, I know there have been female sports presenters.....and I get that.
Billie Jean King was eminently suitable for commentating on tennis...she was a great player(or so I am told....I do not do any kind of sport)....Sue Barker too, actually played the game and you knew what her credentials were.
Claire Balding...not sure how she became a commentator on horse racing, but it did not seem at all ‘out of the ordinary’.
Gabby Logan grew up with a footballing father so her exposure to the game was from a young age so she is an honorary Male.

The question I asked was really to do with football.
There seem to be more and more women pundits, commentators, reporters from games.....when it used to be men doing these reports.
Now, I do not watch football....but I know many of the Premier League clubs have women’s teams.....surely, not all of these women have played football....so where do they get their credence from.....and do you men who are avid fans, take them seriously...or do you feel it is just another bit of wokeness....to get women into these posts to tick the equality box?

For the women supporters out there who love the game, I apologise if you consider this a sexist point of view.
 
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DaveinGermany said:
dotti34 said:
A good hefty tenderizing hammer (a really big one) saves hours of boiling. :D
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Son...much as I would have liked to have thought of the quote you have included in your post....it did not come from me.....I think that might have something to do with the fact that I do not answer to that G name.....it was never on my to do list...be one of those G things.....and if you can self identify your gender then I can self identify as anything but that!
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Margaret Pilkington said:
...I think that might have something to do with the fact that I do not answer to that G name.....
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I know Ma, your views on the "G-N-O" are well documented. :) It was a a reply to Dotti, but somewhere along the line, like all things tech, a sneaky little Gremlin (not our tame pet one on here mind) gets in & cocks things up, that or big thick sossy fingers hitting wrong buttons. :D
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
For the women supporters out there who love the game, I apologise if you consider this a sexist point of view.
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i know its only two females involved and not a wide range of opinion but my niece a regular at everton at one time and her in the kitchen actually dislike the female commontators and pundits far more than i do. if i decide to be a woman for the day i,ll tell you if my position changes on them.
 
Less said:
I watch a fair bit of horse racing, the pundits seem to be a fifty fifty split of both male and female,

thats fine if there is a 50/50 split in those involved with horse racing at the top level and the viewers are split the same way. bet they are searching for the good old ethnic minorities to find one who can do the job to take over from another middle aged person who is doing the job already.
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dotti34 said:
I’m surprised that no-one has mentioned anything about the forthcoming Olympics.
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Following the above statement from Dotti, I would say the same about the present Euro's 2020, been running for a couple of weeks now & tonight the 3 Lions are actually playing in the quarter finals!!! Novel enough by itself, but the fact they beat the arch enemy "Ze Germans" 2-0 to get there surely raises a wry eyebrow on this "Historic" event. :D


Shall be popping down the local "Doner Restaurant" tonight, mingling with the clientelle & sitting at the "Top table" with the Boss of the establishment Ferdi, (Yeah I know, not really a typical turkish name but there's a story there, him & his family, plus his brothers are all good lads) & some other VIPs sinking a few & cheering on the boys, deep in the heart of the defeated "Enemies territory".


I even convinced some of the beaten foe to at least give a grudging cheer for the "Tommies" tonight. After all our superiorly whupping their H'arses & giving the Bosch a damned good thrashing midweek! A little respect if you please! (lets face it, it don't happen often & will probably be a long time coming before similar again happens :))


So "Come on England, for the Queen, God & St George!!"


:D
 

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And so it continues, the Lions roared & the Ukraine widdled thersens! 4-0 to Englands young Lions, next the Vikings of Denmark are up on Wednesday evening, will the young Lions be rampant once more & maul the upstart Danes or will the Nordic marauders, savage, ravage & plunder unhindered?


Either way bring it on, Edington or Maldon? Wednesday will define the outcome ....... Come on England!!! :)
 
monkey hanger said:
thats fine if there is a 50/50 split in those involved with horse racing at the top level and the viewers are split the same way. bet they are searching for the good old ethnic minorities to find one who can do the job to take over from another middle aged person who is doing the job already.
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Talking of horse racing, here's one to pawn your knee caps for if it ever gets on it's feet and out of the stalls:-



Oh So Woke
 
The Lion roared, a tad late mind & not without controversy, still "It's a funny old game!" as the saying goes & we're there at long last & much disappointment over the previous years.


The final tonight, the Young Lions face off against the Gladiatori d'Italia, Christians to the slaughter? Lions massacared in the arena? Or will the ancient spirit of Boudica & the Iceni prevail?



"What have the Romans ever done for us?"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvPbj9NX0zc


Anyways, apart from all that may I just add "Pizza" to the list :D they could also give us the win tonight!


Come on England!!! :)
 
Well we was spaghettied! Rolled round, pulled all over & slurped up, not our best night, but better than normal. Ah well, the wait goes on 55 years & counting ......:(
 
cashman said:
thing is if most are honest like me i never expected them to get to the final, and then what i regarded as the best team in the competition could not beat us in 120 mins, only won by the lottery i say. well done lads.
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it actually takes the gloss off winning the thing as well when you really have to rely upon the opposition missing a penalty or your keeper guessing right and saves it. the score after 120 minutes meant on paper they were no better than us. just a pity that a better way of deciding games can be thought up. people laugh at cricket where they can play 5 full days and the game ends a draw. these euro,s have gone on for a few weeks to end up decided by penalty misses.
 
monkey hanger said:
it actually takes the gloss off winning the thing as well when you really have to rely upon the opposition missing a penalty or your keeper guessing right and saves it. the score after 120 minutes meant on paper they were no better than us. just a pity that a better way of deciding games can be thought up. people laugh at cricket where they can play 5 full days and the game ends a draw. these euro,s have gone on for a few weeks to end up decided by penalty misses.
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i reckon many fans think its a very poor way to decide a game, but sod all we can do about it clowns decide who have no idea at all what fans think, nor do they care.
 
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