The Olympics

Cashie, if your idea as to the stupidity or otherwise of a person is based on if they always agree with you or not – the ‘nots’ being the stupid ones, then I am ‘probably’ very, very, stupid.....
 
Cashie, if your idea as to the stupidity or otherwise of a person is based on if they always agree with you or not – the ‘nots’ being the stupid ones, then I am ‘probably’ very, very, stupid.....
dont think so dotti,i know quite a few peronally that do not agree with me and they are far from stupid, but i think using that description is not very bright.
 
National Pride is a very wide ranging concept. There are things about the UK that I am not proud about. Perhaps any discussion needs to go deeper than the sweeping statement that People who dont have National Pride are stupid.

its so wide ranging with everyone having their own opinion on what this pride is. from a millionaire to a rough sleeper, a far right winger to a far leftie they will all have some pride in their country. the problem is they,ll be all different and some would not class them as something to actually be proud of.
 
well enjoy it whilst you can. some will want all comments by some that do not follow a certain line banned for life until they impersonate a sheep.
Dont get me wrong, I can take personal comments till the cows come home. They are of little consequence.
My earlier comment was illustrating my support for anybody to have their own opiinions. Challenge mine by all means, but if all you can offer is personal remarks, veiled or otherwise, please dont waste your time.
 
Dont get me wrong, I can take personal comments till the cows come home. They are of little consequence.
My earlier comment was illustrating my support for anybody to have their own opiinions. Challenge mine by all means, but if all you can offer is personal remarks, veiled or otherwise, please dont waste your time.

i was not having a go at you at all. i was commenting on the present day situation of where comments on certain issues seem only valid if they follow one line or another and free speech being reserved for certain minorities.
 
As I said in another post it is so easy to misconstrue what is said in writing.

The internet can be a very difficult medium to get across the finer points of a discussion, because you cannot see the person you are talking to...gauge their expressions, body language etc.
I truly think that Monkey Hanger was referring to the current woke attitudes of some people.
But then again I could be wrong on that too.
 
i was not having a go at you at all. i was commenting on the present day situation of where comments on certain issues seem only valid if they follow one line or another and free speech being reserved for certain minorities.

Sorry if I misunderstood, agree it is easy to not get the writers meaning in an Internet posting
 
As I said in another post it is so easy to misconstrue what is said in writing.

The internet can be a very difficult medium to get across the finer points of a discussion, because you cannot see the person you are talking to...gauge their expressions, body language etc.
I truly think that Monkey Hanger was referring to the current woke attitudes of some people.
But then again I could be wrong on that too.

no you are not wrong and at least talking face to face you do not have to get your spelling and punctuation correct.
 
I am not sure where to ask this sporting question....it is really about football....there is football in the Olympics isn’t there?

Anyway, I am going to ask the gents on the forum how they feel about the increasing number of female pundits, commentators on football?
I believe that women can do anything, but it seems strange to see these women talking about football.
Do you chaps who are avid fans take their commentary seriously...or do you see it as part of the tokenism of wokeness?
From my point of view I do not like sport....any sport, and I freely admit that football is something that I do not understand at all.
I know there has been an upsurge in women’s teams.....but where have these new women commentators come from?
What are their credentials for sitting alongside the likes of Lineker(though I hate that man with a passion) Carragher, Wright.
They played top class football so have some validity.

And to those women out there who love football, play football or just support a team.....I am sorry if this question offends you...it is not meant to.
 
those who critisize spelling and punctuation are nothing but PLEBS, in my view, well worth ignoring.

I would not have an issue with poor spelling, but there have been a few posts recently about how a post can be misinterpreted.
Punctuation has a part to play in that....how you punctuate a sentence can totally alter what it means.
For example : ‘let’s eat, Grandma’ that sentence is telling Grandma it is time to eat.
Now, try this version : let’s eat Grandma.....this implies you are going to eat Grandma.
Cashy, I know it seems irrelevant, but if you want a post to be understood rather than misunderstood...punctuation is the way.
And it does not have to be perfect....it is a long time since you and I did English Grammar at school....so we are allowed to slip up from time to time.
 
Anyway, I am going to ask the gents on the forum how they feel about the increasing number of female pundits, commentators on football?


Here in Germany there are a few women commentators doing the coverage of both male & female footy matches, I can take them or leave them. As long as the coverage is accurate & clear that's fine, but I think a few of them try to hard to be on a par with their male colleagues & it just comes across wrong.


They should do their own thing in their own style & I'm pretty sure they'll soon establish themselves in their own right.
 
as I said previously...I do beleive that women can do anything....but I have to say that I find it uncomfortable to watch the women reporting from matches as I do not really know how they came to be where they are in the commentary stakes....it isn't as if I recognise them as having played the game(though, maybe they have)...whereas I know the names of the male football players and so I take what they say more seriously and Yes son, they do seem to be trying very hard to be up with the boys.

I just don't 'get it'.
 
I am not sure where to ask this sporting question....it is really about football....there is football in the Olympics isn’t there?

Anyway, I am going to ask the gents on the forum how they feel about the increasing number of female pundits, commentators on football?
I believe that women can do anything, but it seems strange to see these women talking about football.
Do you chaps who are avid fans take their commentary seriously...or do you see it as part of the tokenism of wokeness?
From my point of view I do not like sport....any sport, and I freely admit that football is something that I do not understand at all.
I know there has been an upsurge in women’s teams.....but where have these new women commentators come from?
What are their credentials for sitting alongside the likes of Lineker(though I hate that man with a passion) Carragher, Wright.
They played top class football so have some validity.

And to those women out there who love football, play football or just support a team.....I am sorry if this question offends you...it is not meant to.

You’ve hit on something here Margaret.

Female pundits have been around for 40+ years…from Billie Jean King talking tennis and Rachel Heyhoe Flint talking cricket in the 70’s and more recently Gabby Logan on football and Claire Balding on the horses. Sue Barker successfully replaced that doyen of sports broadcasting David Coleman on Question of Sport and presented Sports Personality of the Year a few times.

The problem at the moment is the box tickers…all the females I mentioned know their stuff and are good broadcasters, so much so that gender is irrelevant.

What is happening now is our current ‘woke’ box ticking producers in an attempt at showing that they are inclusive, are throwing females who obviously know their stuff into hi-profile positions but, like bad teachers, they cannot communicate and it’s sticking out like a sore thumb.

And if I posted something like this on twitter I’d be cancelled
 
Punctuation has a part to play in that....how you punctuate a sentence can totally alter what it means. For example : ‘let’s eat, Grandma’ that sentence is telling Grandma it is time to eat. Now, try this version : let’s eat Grandma.....this implies you are going to eat Grandma.

Margaret, that is so funny. You are definitely right, punctuation (or lack of it) can completely change the meaning of a sentence, as you have just shown. Mind you, to eat this grandma would take a few hours of boiling to soften me up first. I’d be more than a bit tough.

It would be a bit of fun to read some more examples. Any out there?
 
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