Because it needs billions of investment, and if you hadn't noticed the readies are in very short supply at the moment and for the foreseeable future, because somebody spent it all
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The state can't simply grab the railways back.
It would have to buy them off the shareholders.
As was pointed out, many pension funds are invested in former nationalised industries.
How much do you think that would cost, and where do you suggest we get the money from?
yor talkin rubbish they found billions for a high speed train for snobs because nobody else will be able to afford them.Railtrack goes bust with debts of 3.5bn - Telegraph sho0uld have been nationalised as they owe the public purse billions is this a success.it didnt work in america why would it work here AAA credit ratings explained | Business | guardian.co.uk a disgrace nothing short of a dictatorship .i wonder who benefited from these deals as it explains the railways were self sufficiant now we pay billions to private companies which is nothing short of theft.thats why we are short of moneyBecause it needs billions of investment, and if you hadn't noticed the readies are in very short supply at the moment and for the foreseeable future, because somebody spent it all
Ah, bitterness creeping in, the age old 'haves', & 'have not's'.
These high speed trains, (had they succeeded), would still have pulled a third class carriage so that you too could travel in squaller, (standing room only whilst the 1st class carriages are empty, (you just would have stood for a little less time, (see, a win for the working classes))).
They turned out to be no good, had cost too much, causing the company to go bust rather than the Government giving them yet another useless handout.
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thats the trains in london and surrounding areas already the northern trains are a disgrace as well.what about the countryside thats going to be ripped up and im not bitter about haves and have nots i live quite comfortably
train travel is up 12% last year.you would think they would like to keep encouraging if they were serious about serving the country
the northern trains are a disgrace as well.what about the countryside thats going to be ripped up and im not bitter about haves and have nots i live quite comfortablytrain travel is up 12% last year.you would think they would like to keep encouraging if they were serious about serving the country
hard work,and careful planning, living within my means and a bit of this and that
Tick Tock, the clock is ticking
as with gas ,bt , electric.that reminds me norweb lol water as they have declared a drought in the south of england build more reseviors buy water off us in sunny scotland oh no that costs money dont want to upset the shareholders as we have a monopoly and are free to do as we want down wi the peasants down with the british as most british water is owned by foreign shareholders.
build more reseviors buy water off us in sunny scotland oh no that costs money dont want to upset the shareholders as we have a monopoly and are free to do as we want down wi the peasants down with the british as most british water is owned by foreign shareholders.Yep n forgot all the reservoirs they sold off n built houses on.as with gas ,bt , electric.that reminds me norweb lol water as they have declared a drought in the south of england
£55 million and counting wasted its time for re-nationalise .. #FareFail: Commuters Against Rail Fare Rises ? Together for Transport
Ya I bet your teeth are glad when your mouth goes to sleep, spewing out so much garbage daily, by the way you never did tell us your gainful mode of employment, we know your not a journalist, you can't spell of use the queens English very well so come on cmon lets now how you pay your hard earned pennies
He probably works for a foreign company, something like that French one that is throwing the long term ill off sickness benefits and onto the dole even though they aren't fit to work and if they were, there are no jobs for them to do anyway.Ya I bet your teeth are glad when your mouth goes to sleep, spewing out so much garbage daily, by the way you never did tell us your gainful mode of employment, we know your not a journalist, you can't spell of use the queens English very well so come on cmon lets now how you pay your hard earned pennies
He's working from the inside to show how little truth there is in the term 'we're all in this together'.
Here you are cmon. (cut & pasted in true cmon style)
Bring Back British Rail | the collective voice of disgruntled rail passengers and disheartened train company employees, calling for a unified national rail network run for people not profit
Bring Back British Rail | the collective voice of disgruntled rail passengers and disheartened train company employees, calling for a unified national rail network run for people not profit
SNCF - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia just watched sky news and the french have double decker brand new clean trains.never knew i would say this but i think we should follow the French policy on rail transport.it brings in at least £20 billion after costs .this shows one the real reasons why this country has gone backwards.
vote for the green party and it will come true
Like i said dream on.vote for the green party and it will come true
Perhaps we should take a moment to reflect on the golden age of rail when it was last in nationalised hands. 1979, a great year for many things (like flared trousers and Glam rock) but not so for rail. At that time the unions had brought the UK to a striking standstill and the country was by every measure bottom of Europe (below Greece and Portugal).
The problem with the UK rail system is not so much who owns it but the quality of people managing it. East Coast line was nationalised and is run by the government after the previous operator lost so much money they went bust. It has the worst record for punctuality of all the lines. There is no such thing as a profitable railway line in the UK - I believe that every single line (except maybe the Ribble Valley narrow gauge tourist track) loses money every year.
Privatisation cannot work for massively lossmaking industries - it just created a short term cash windfall for the government of the day that was subsequently squandered. Now that cash benefit is long gone we are left with the govt (read taxpayer) or rail users picking up the tab for both subsidy and loss, picking up the job of managing the line if the operator fails.
The Octopus system noted in the original article should have been rolled out 10 years ago when the technology became mainstream. Like unions......paper tickets, cash collectors, and signalmen are all legacy of a bygone age.
Crowding can be easily sorted by flexible time based pricing which the electronic cards system allows. Charge the card once and then just tap it at all the public transport points when you get on and off (system calculates distance traveled and charges accordingly). This can and should be integrated with bus transport, taxis and as here in Singapore even shopping.
To deal with overcrowding here they introduced FREE train travel on all weekday journeys ending by 7.30am, with compensating higher charges for people who want to travel peak time. Loads of people change behaviour for FREE travel - going to gym before work or going for breakfast in the city. Peak travel is thus also fine because half the country travels pre-7.30 so the carriages are less busy. Good for employers too as employees turn up earlier than they otherwise would.
The problem with the UK rail system is not so much who owns it but the quality of people managing it. East Coast line was nationalised and is run by the government after the previous operator lost so much money they went bust. It has the worst record for punctuality of all the lines. There is no such thing as a profitable railway line in the UK - I believe that every single line (except maybe the Ribble Valley narrow gauge tourist track) loses money every year.
Privatisation cannot work for massively lossmaking industries - it just created a short term cash windfall for the government of the day that was subsequently squandered. Now that cash benefit is long gone we are left with the govt (read taxpayer) or rail users picking up the tab for both subsidy and loss, picking up the job of managing the line if the operator fails.
The Octopus system noted in the original article should have been rolled out 10 years ago when the technology became mainstream. Like unions......paper tickets, cash collectors, and signalmen are all legacy of a bygone age.
Crowding can be easily sorted by flexible time based pricing which the electronic cards system allows. Charge the card once and then just tap it at all the public transport points when you get on and off (system calculates distance traveled and charges accordingly). This can and should be integrated with bus transport, taxis and as here in Singapore even shopping.
To deal with overcrowding here they introduced FREE train travel on all weekday journeys ending by 7.30am, with compensating higher charges for people who want to travel peak time. Loads of people change behaviour for FREE travel - going to gym before work or going for breakfast in the city. Peak travel is thus also fine because half the country travels pre-7.30 so the carriages are less busy. Good for employers too as employees turn up earlier than they otherwise would.